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Mr Brainwash 'ICONS REMIX' Show - May 9th, by spirit on May 9, 2010 12:57:41 GMT 1, UK peeps don't get MBW as things are always slower over here. Lets see what happens when the show hits London... will be interesting. Sure he will pull all his contacts for that one if you know what i mean.
I think most UK peeps get exactly what Mr Brainwash is about...
UK peeps don't get MBW as things are always slower over here. Lets see what happens when the show hits London... will be interesting. Sure he will pull all his contacts for that one if you know what i mean. I think most UK peeps get exactly what Mr Brainwash is about...
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Studio clearout., by spirit on May 7, 2010 11:24:36 GMT 1, Apollo's gone... Apollo Spray paint on canvas 30cm x 30cm SOLD
Nice piece. Well done whoever got it. Was seriously considering it myself. About to have a commision done though so couldn't really afford this as well and glad the temptation has been removed...
Apollo's gone... Apollo Spray paint on canvas 30cm x 30cm SOLD Nice piece. Well done whoever got it. Was seriously considering it myself. About to have a commision done though so couldn't really afford this as well and glad the temptation has been removed...
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UK Election - Lab/Con/LD, by spirit on May 7, 2010 10:43:15 GMT 1, Just watched it again. You might be right Walshy. The first time I clearly heard "How many of you's are robbers" but on a second look it could well be "how many is there of us". Funny how that puts a completely different slant on things. I wonder what the asian guys "heard".
Just watched it again. You might be right Walshy. The first time I clearly heard "How many of you's are robbers" but on a second look it could well be "how many is there of us". Funny how that puts a completely different slant on things. I wonder what the asian guys "heard".
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UK Election - Lab/Con/LD, by spirit on May 7, 2010 10:11:37 GMT 1, =- "how many is there of us" not "how many of you are robbers?" ;D don't know why the youths felt the need to confront but from a human to human perspective, spitting at someone is possibly the most derogatory action you could perform. i + many others would have reacted in the same way as bob. some may have even reacted the second his space was intimidatingly invaded.
Did you miss the robbers comment Ross? It's right at the beginning - the bnp guy says it twice to the 3 asian lads "How many of you's are robbers?" - that's why the Asian guys confronted them and quite right too. If someone calls you a thief based on nothing more than the colour of your skin it's very insulting and deserves a response. Sure it might have been better for them to reply along the lines of "How many of you are racist c**t" but I can understand why he spat on him personally.
None of them were very handy in a fight though...all a bit embarrassing.
=- "how many is there of us" not "how many of you are robbers?" ;D don't know why the youths felt the need to confront but from a human to human perspective, spitting at someone is possibly the most derogatory action you could perform. i + many others would have reacted in the same way as bob. some may have even reacted the second his space was intimidatingly invaded. Did you miss the robbers comment Ross? It's right at the beginning - the bnp guy says it twice to the 3 asian lads "How many of you's are robbers?" - that's why the Asian guys confronted them and quite right too. If someone calls you a thief based on nothing more than the colour of your skin it's very insulting and deserves a response. Sure it might have been better for them to reply along the lines of "How many of you are racist c**t" but I can understand why he spat on him personally. None of them were very handy in a fight though...all a bit embarrassing.
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Saber ๐บ๐ธ Graffiti Art โข Los Angeles โข For Sale, by spirit on May 7, 2010 9:52:42 GMT 1, No need for another thread about this print is there?
No need for another thread about this print is there?
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Art Restoration in LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง Who do you Recommend?, by spirit on May 7, 2010 9:40:07 GMT 1, Can anyone point me in the direction of a print restorer please? I've searched and searched for a post on here that I know I've seen before about this but canny find it. Thanks in advance.
www.grahambignellpaperconservation.co.uk/
Can anyone point me in the direction of a print restorer please? I've searched and searched for a post on here that I know I've seen before about this but canny find it. Thanks in advance. www.grahambignellpaperconservation.co.uk/
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FS: Stop & Search, by spirit on May 6, 2010 18:33:04 GMT 1, Actually I'm going to correct myself...
I seem to remember that import VAT is not due if the item originated in the UK and VAT was already paid on it. In this case the print was originally sold by POW and VAT would have already been paid at that time, therefore I believe it would not be liable for VAT again.
I could be wrong about this, but I definitely remember reading that somewhere along the line...
It might be that the buyer would have to pay the VAT but could then claim it back - they would need the original receipt to prove the item was originally purchased in the UK and VAT was paid.
Actually I'm going to correct myself...
I seem to remember that import VAT is not due if the item originated in the UK and VAT was already paid on it. In this case the print was originally sold by POW and VAT would have already been paid at that time, therefore I believe it would not be liable for VAT again.
I could be wrong about this, but I definitely remember reading that somewhere along the line...
It might be that the buyer would have to pay the VAT but could then claim it back - they would need the original receipt to prove the item was originally purchased in the UK and VAT was paid.
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FS: Stop & Search, by spirit on May 6, 2010 17:15:50 GMT 1, If the seller marks the customs slip as a gift then no tax will be charged. Nonsense. There's a sticky on this somewhere, done by dmandpenfold.
From the hmrc website
"Goods sent as a gift that are over ยฃ40 in value are liable to import VAT."
Your only way of avoiding the VAT is to declare a very low value, but then that value is what is used for insurance purposes by the seller - so if the print gets lost/damaged, the seller won't be able to get their money back.
Bonesy: if you want to sell this to a UK buyer, and you want to send insured, I think you're probably unlikely to get more than $2500 for the print. Add the 17.5% VAT to this, and the shipping, and it will end up at about $3K for the buyer which converts to just over ยฃ2K - which would be the best (most expensive) price paid so far this year...(that I'm aware of).
You'd be better off finding a US buyer if you can.
If the seller marks the customs slip as a gift then no tax will be charged. Nonsense. There's a sticky on this somewhere, done by dmandpenfold. From the hmrc website "Goods sent as a gift that are over ยฃ40 in value are liable to import VAT." Your only way of avoiding the VAT is to declare a very low value, but then that value is what is used for insurance purposes by the seller - so if the print gets lost/damaged, the seller won't be able to get their money back. Bonesy: if you want to sell this to a UK buyer, and you want to send insured, I think you're probably unlikely to get more than $2500 for the print. Add the 17.5% VAT to this, and the shipping, and it will end up at about $3K for the buyer which converts to just over ยฃ2K - which would be the best (most expensive) price paid so far this year...(that I'm aware of). You'd be better off finding a US buyer if you can.
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LAzarides presents David Choe - Nothing To Declare, by spirit on May 6, 2010 15:30:40 GMT 1, not true, still available According to who? I was told they had 2 on hold... and that was that.
Look 3 posts above yours. Confirmed as still available by Laz themselves.
not true, still available According to who? I was told they had 2 on hold... and that was that. Look 3 posts above yours. Confirmed as still available by Laz themselves.
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FS: Stop & Search, by spirit on May 6, 2010 11:10:03 GMT 1, Thanks for the input. This ebay sale had no Pest Control COA (which hurts the seller more than the ยฃ50 it costs IMO).
I'd agree with that - I could have got the ยฃ2K I wanted if mine had had Pest Control but it didn't so I took the ยฃ1850 without.
Might be worth PMing hops - I know he was after one a while back and he's in the US so wouldn't have the international shipping/VAT costs to worry about.
What are you doing up anyway? go back to bed
Thanks for the input. This ebay sale had no Pest Control COA (which hurts the seller more than the ยฃ50 it costs IMO). I'd agree with that - I could have got the ยฃ2K I wanted if mine had had Pest Control but it didn't so I took the ยฃ1850 without. Might be worth PMing hops - I know he was after one a while back and he's in the US so wouldn't have the international shipping/VAT costs to worry about. What are you doing up anyway? go back to bed
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FS: Stop & Search, by spirit on May 6, 2010 10:25:55 GMT 1, i'd say anything above ยฃ2.1k/$3.2k is overpriced Really? I only just decided to move it as I could suddenly use the money for another purchase. The last few sales on Expressobeans are $4350 (with PC), $3100 (framed w/o PC), and $3900. None have been reported sold since February and I am not seeing any completed sales on ebay. I tried using the Search function on here, but it never works very well. The print has been in a mylar sleeve on foamcore since purchased. I am in the US but will include free insured shipping (packaged very well) by your preferred carrier.
ยฃ2K on here on a good day. I tried for ยฃ2K for mine on here a couple of months ago but settled for ยฃ1850. The last one on ebay (120558763850 25th April) went for ยฃ2K (but seller paid ebay/paypal fees out of that)
Good luck with the sale.
i'd say anything above ยฃ2.1k/$3.2k is overpriced Really? I only just decided to move it as I could suddenly use the money for another purchase. The last few sales on Expressobeans are $4350 (with PC), $3100 (framed w/o PC), and $3900. None have been reported sold since February and I am not seeing any completed sales on ebay. I tried using the Search function on here, but it never works very well. The print has been in a mylar sleeve on foamcore since purchased. I am in the US but will include free insured shipping (packaged very well) by your preferred carrier. ยฃ2K on here on a good day. I tried for ยฃ2K for mine on here a couple of months ago but settled for ยฃ1850. The last one on ebay (120558763850 25th April) went for ยฃ2K (but seller paid ebay/paypal fees out of that) Good luck with the sale.
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why is value is going down?, by spirit on May 5, 2010 15:37:24 GMT 1, Unsurprisingly, the good stuff is going up in value again (compared to last years lows) but the average to poor stuff is still losing value. A recession always sorts the wheat from the chaff...
Unsurprisingly, the good stuff is going up in value again (compared to last years lows) but the average to poor stuff is still losing value. A recession always sorts the wheat from the chaff...
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Posting a print to USA help., by spirit on May 5, 2010 15:32:19 GMT 1, collectmyparcel.com are very good. They're a third party DHL carrier (signed for) - they pick up from you same day if you book before 1pm and it gets there in 3/4 days.
ยฃ27.50 to the states
+ Insurance: ยฃ750 - ยฃ17.50 ยฃ1000 - ยฃ24.50
collectmyparcel.com are very good. They're a third party DHL carrier (signed for) - they pick up from you same day if you book before 1pm and it gets there in 3/4 days.
ยฃ27.50 to the states
+ Insurance: ยฃ750 - ยฃ17.50 ยฃ1000 - ยฃ24.50
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free ticket for Joanna Newsom May 11th, by spirit on May 4, 2010 22:49:10 GMT 1, PM'd
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D*Face More Punk Than You Punk Print, by spirit on May 4, 2010 17:03:46 GMT 1, if I had one I would give it to you as a bday present! but I don't have any... Have a great day!
It's my birthday soon - I like Banksy, Parla and Neate... got any of those?
if I had one I would give it to you as a bday present! but I don't have any... Have a great day! It's my birthday soon - I like Banksy, Parla and Neate... got any of those?
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Banksy in San Francisco, by spirit on May 4, 2010 13:33:59 GMT 1, What I'm not sure of is who painted over the tags that preceded the Banksy?
It was this guy...
Source.
What I'm not sure of is who painted over the tags that preceded the Banksy? It was this guy... Source.
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beejoir lv child ending ????, by spirit on May 3, 2010 19:26:01 GMT 1,
the last one went over ยฃ200 - think they may be finally getting some of the love they deserve. And the 25% to charity probably helps.
the last one went over ยฃ200 - think they may be finally getting some of the love they deserve. And the 25% to charity probably helps.
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LAzarides presents David Choe - Nothing To Declare, by spirit on May 3, 2010 13:54:05 GMT 1, that does look gorgeous...
that does look gorgeous...
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No Ball Games wanted, by spirit on May 3, 2010 13:25:06 GMT 1, Any gallery that sells secondary market pieces is essentially flipping. Art has a private price and a gallery price and galleries just exploit the difference. It doesn't really bother me and as someone said before, it contributes to a healthy secondary market. I'm not sure the practise really has much effect on private prices, more the gallery price is determined by private price + markup.
Any gallery that sells secondary market pieces is essentially flipping. Art has a private price and a gallery price and galleries just exploit the difference. It doesn't really bother me and as someone said before, it contributes to a healthy secondary market. I'm not sure the practise really has much effect on private prices, more the gallery price is determined by private price + markup.
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Banksy in San Francisco, by spirit on May 3, 2010 12:53:58 GMT 1, Loving these new pieces - Alcat-rat and glitte-rat-i!
Loving these new pieces - Alcat-rat and glitte-rat-i!
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WIN a FREE Danny O'Connor (DOC) OG, by spirit on May 3, 2010 10:52:12 GMT 1, Kept coming back to the grizzly and nabbed the last one!
Kept coming back to the grizzly and nabbed the last one!
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Shepard Fairey "MAY DAY" Deitch, by spirit on May 3, 2010 10:20:47 GMT 1, I'll admit that those flags are nice images, but wow, so much hype here. And I still can't get over Fairey who just two years ago totally jumped on the Democratic party bandwagon, and now he's mr non partisan with his centerpiece "These two parties disgust me?" Does he ever step back and think about what he's doing? And sure it really sucks for Deitch to be fallen on, but what a mouth on that guy. The big guy should be proud of himself for taking the high road and being so apologetic even while a little twerp was calling him such names. Deitch looked like kind of a d*ck eh. Reminds me of a time I was at a Deitch opening, really crowded not much room to stand and for some reason Deitch and one of his employees decided to move the front table. They picked the table up and (no exaggeration) slammed it into my leg to push me out of the way. I looked at him like wtf, couldn't you tap me on the shoulder and ask me to move? After seeing that video it all makes sense. I mostly appreciate his eye and he's been great to young alternative artists, but you know what the show's over and good riddance to this power hungry pยฎ*#k. Go play at moca. Time for a new era to begin in NYC.
Quite agree. Very big mouth for such a small man. After replying to apologies with insults, I think he was lucky not to get a deliberate black eye to go with the accidental fat lip.
I'll admit that those flags are nice images, but wow, so much hype here. And I still can't get over Fairey who just two years ago totally jumped on the Democratic party bandwagon, and now he's mr non partisan with his centerpiece "These two parties disgust me?" Does he ever step back and think about what he's doing? And sure it really sucks for Deitch to be fallen on, but what a mouth on that guy. The big guy should be proud of himself for taking the high road and being so apologetic even while a little twerp was calling him such names. Deitch looked like kind of a d*ck eh. Reminds me of a time I was at a Deitch opening, really crowded not much room to stand and for some reason Deitch and one of his employees decided to move the front table. They picked the table up and (no exaggeration) slammed it into my leg to push me out of the way. I looked at him like wtf, couldn't you tap me on the shoulder and ask me to move? After seeing that video it all makes sense. I mostly appreciate his eye and he's been great to young alternative artists, but you know what the show's over and good riddance to this power hungry pยฎ*#k. Go play at moca. Time for a new era to begin in NYC. Quite agree. Very big mouth for such a small man. After replying to apologies with insults, I think he was lucky not to get a deliberate black eye to go with the accidental fat lip.
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LONDON Framers โข Who do you Recommend? , by spirit on May 2, 2010 22:46:28 GMT 1, shinybrite/jack if you are an owner/employee/connected to Glessons (just a wild guess as you sure seem to be pushing them hard tonight) then it would be better to make that clear from the start.
Also worth noting the dates - this thread is over 3 months old so I imagine twinkle is sorted by now.
shinybrite/jack if you are an owner/employee/connected to Glessons (just a wild guess as you sure seem to be pushing them hard tonight) then it would be better to make that clear from the start.
Also worth noting the dates - this thread is over 3 months old so I imagine twinkle is sorted by now.
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Peter Blake Kate Moss, by spirit on May 1, 2010 11:44:45 GMT 1, Beyond terrible? That has to be the harshest critisism of a piece of art this forum has known.
You must have missed the Cartrain threads
Beyond terrible? That has to be the harshest critisism of a piece of art this forum has known. You must have missed the Cartrain threads
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I've been asked to show at a gallery :), by spirit on May 1, 2010 11:28:57 GMT 1, A very strong case, well made by joshua liner.
I also agree with jopkop to a point. I think there is no doubt that legally, skai is doing nothing wrong. I also accept that there is a moral side - he was honest about his inspiration but it goes further than that. I don't think that it is right to say that he was only taking credit for craftsmanship, not concept for example:
"There is only one element that I took from kuksi's piece, that being the tank turret on top of a body. The rest are my ideas, work and thoughts."
I have great respect for the time, effort and skill put into this piece by skai, but for me it is lacking in artistic integrity and it can never be anything other than chasing coat tails until he stops biting Kuksi's style and starts to find and develop his own. Nothing wrong with continuing to work in the medium of mixed media assemblage (is it possible to say that word without sounding like a t**t?) but he needs to find his own voice.
Being inspired by Kuksi, and exploring how he does what he does and making pieces in homage is fine - that is part of the artistic journey to finding your own style. The major problem for me comes when this turns from a learning process into a commercial venture. At that point you are making money off someone else's ideas and potentially depriving them of sales and that lacks artistic integrity and is morally wrong.
A very strong case, well made by joshua liner.
I also agree with jopkop to a point. I think there is no doubt that legally, skai is doing nothing wrong. I also accept that there is a moral side - he was honest about his inspiration but it goes further than that. I don't think that it is right to say that he was only taking credit for craftsmanship, not concept for example:
"There is only one element that I took from kuksi's piece, that being the tank turret on top of a body. The rest are my ideas, work and thoughts."
I have great respect for the time, effort and skill put into this piece by skai, but for me it is lacking in artistic integrity and it can never be anything other than chasing coat tails until he stops biting Kuksi's style and starts to find and develop his own. Nothing wrong with continuing to work in the medium of mixed media assemblage (is it possible to say that word without sounding like a t**t?) but he needs to find his own voice.
Being inspired by Kuksi, and exploring how he does what he does and making pieces in homage is fine - that is part of the artistic journey to finding your own style. The major problem for me comes when this turns from a learning process into a commercial venture. At that point you are making money off someone else's ideas and potentially depriving them of sales and that lacks artistic integrity and is morally wrong.
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Antony Micallef - I Brake Everything, by spirit on Apr 30, 2010 19:47:57 GMT 1, Obviously learnt nothing from previous mistakes...
Obviously learnt nothing from previous mistakes...
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I totally agree with that. I've considered selling mine as it's not on the wall but I always get a strong feeling that I would regret it one day if I did. It's a very classic, movement defining image imo.
It's baffled me for some time why Beejoir's 'LV Child' unsigned edition of 400 is not as highly valued as, say, a Banksy 'Flag' or unsigned 'Morons'. It should be worth far more than its current market value in my opinion. Interestingly though just of late a few on eBay have gone for ยฃ200+. Worth keeping hold of I reckon. I think its now becoming more sought after which will only see values of this splendid print appreciate. I was lucky to get a 'red' Japanese version. Lovely colourway. Hoping to get that framed real soon. Good luck with your sale zippy! I totally agree with that. I've considered selling mine as it's not on the wall but I always get a strong feeling that I would regret it one day if I did. It's a very classic, movement defining image imo.
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The London Original Print Fair, by spirit on Apr 30, 2010 12:07:28 GMT 1, Wow, I want that Walker print of London! What's the edition size? Reckon there will be any left? What kind of price we talking, if you don't mind me asking? (feel free to PM me) Might pop along to this tomorrow, sounds as if it is wortyh a visit.
As said previously, it's an edition of 50, up at ยฃ2.2K but worth negotiating... There were 12 left when I bought mine. I think they sold 3 or 4 yesterday so you've got a reasonable chance tomorrow I would say...but I'd get there early as tomorrow will probably be the busiest day.
Good luck - a very special piece imo.
Wow, I want that Walker print of London! What's the edition size? Reckon there will be any left? What kind of price we talking, if you don't mind me asking? (feel free to PM me) Might pop along to this tomorrow, sounds as if it is wortyh a visit. As said previously, it's an edition of 50, up at ยฃ2.2K but worth negotiating... There were 12 left when I bought mine. I think they sold 3 or 4 yesterday so you've got a reasonable chance tomorrow I would say...but I'd get there early as tomorrow will probably be the busiest day. Good luck - a very special piece imo.
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The London Original Print Fair, by spirit on Apr 29, 2010 20:03:40 GMT 1, pretty amazed the skulls are still available. Other Criteria don't shout too loudly about them on their website but probably the best print I own
They did look very striking (not being a Hirst fan I liked them more than I care to admit). Paul Stolper had a box full of different ones. I didn't dare ask how much they were....
pretty amazed the skulls are still available. Other Criteria don't shout too loudly about them on their website but probably the best print I own They did look very striking (not being a Hirst fan I liked them more than I care to admit). Paul Stolper had a box full of different ones. I didn't dare ask how much they were....
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The London Original Print Fair, by spirit on Apr 29, 2010 19:55:02 GMT 1, Sounds cool, do you have any pictures of the print you bought?
I didn't take any pics of it while I was there, but here's some images from the web...
It's big... 135 x 85 cm
and here's a detail
It's so detailed (and funny!) I think I could stare at/read it for a year and still not be completely familiar with it.
Sounds cool, do you have any pictures of the print you bought? I didn't take any pics of it while I was there, but here's some images from the web... It's big... 135 x 85 cm and here's a detail It's so detailed (and funny!) I think I could stare at/read it for a year and still not be completely familiar with it.
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