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Price Crash Who Cares???, by Yessir on Aug 21, 2007 17:01:06 GMT 1, I'll start by saying this is not a personal attack on anyone in this forum, but just an honest opinion. I might be wrong, or I might be right. 
Some people who visit this forum, seem to be overly concerned about the crisis in the world financial markets, eventually spreading to the arts market and affecting their "art investments".
I have bought a lot of art over the years and I honestly don't care if my collection loses its monetary value as I have never bought a piece, that I did not want for my walls at home.
If I need cash, I don't see my art collection as an "investment", that I can liquidate when needs be.
I see my art collection as a tool to entertain and enhance my living space, in the same way that I have a television and stereo system in my living room, I know the world markets are not doing too well but I don't sit in front of my Samsung television and think "damn the world markets are doing bad, my samsung plasma tv is worth half what I paid for it", because like I said early I never bought it as an investment.
It has been said many times so I'm not going to bore people by saying "buy what you like and can afford to lose in terms of value", because we are all adults here .
But if or when a "correction", does come over the arts market, a lot of flippers/baggers/art investors, who have "heavily speculated" on art, will be punished, when their "investments" fall flat and they are left "holding-the-baby", but this is when the vultures art lovers, such as myself and many forum members will be circling and picking off all those lovely bargains. ;D
I'll start by saying this is not a personal attack on anyone in this forum, but just an honest opinion. I might be wrong, or I might be right. Some people who visit this forum, seem to be overly concerned about the crisis in the world financial markets, eventually spreading to the arts market and affecting their "art investments". I have bought a lot of art over the years and I honestly don't care if my collection loses its monetary value as I have never bought a piece, that I did not want for my walls at home. If I need cash, I don't see my art collection as an "investment", that I can liquidate when needs be. I see my art collection as a tool to entertain and enhance my living space, in the same way that I have a television and stereo system in my living room, I know the world markets are not doing too well but I don't sit in front of my Samsung television and think "damn the world markets are doing bad, my samsung plasma tv is worth half what I paid for it", because like I said early I never bought it as an investment. It has been said many times so I'm not going to bore people by saying "buy what you like and can afford to lose in terms of value", because we are all adults here . But if or when a "correction", does come over the arts market, a lot of flippers/baggers/art investors, who have "heavily speculated" on art, will be punished, when their "investments" fall flat and they are left "holding-the-baby", but this is when the vultures art lovers, such as myself and many forum members will be circling and picking off all those lovely bargains. ;D |
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by corblimeylimey on Aug 21, 2007 17:15:38 GMT 1, I agree with you anthony, I may sell my Banksy's next year to finance a new (second hand) car (I may get around £4000-£4500 for my 4 unsigned) but beyond that the value of my prints doesn't really matter, some are worth about the same or slightly less than I paid for them and some have doubled or trebled, but that doesn't matter because like you I've bought what I want to keep.
I agree with you anthony, I may sell my Banksy's next year to finance a new (second hand) car (I may get around £4000-£4500 for my 4 unsigned) but beyond that the value of my prints doesn't really matter, some are worth about the same or slightly less than I paid for them and some have doubled or trebled, but that doesn't matter because like you I've bought what I want to keep.
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by dgb133 on Aug 21, 2007 17:17:34 GMT 1, Then why don't you just buy posters and tributes if you don't care? Why spend several thousand on a print if you don't give a damn about it's value?
It's silly to spend a couple grand on these prints without seriously thinking about whether or not you'll get your money back unless you're independently rich. And most people that are rich are too smart to blow such money without thinking about their investment.
Then why don't you just buy posters and tributes if you don't care? Why spend several thousand on a print if you don't give a damn about it's value?
It's silly to spend a couple grand on these prints without seriously thinking about whether or not you'll get your money back unless you're independently rich. And most people that are rich are too smart to blow such money without thinking about their investment.
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by Yessir on Aug 21, 2007 17:22:22 GMT 1, Then why don't you just buy posters and tributes if you don't care? Why spend several thousand on a print if you don't give a damn about it's value? It's silly to spend a couple grand on these prints without seriously thinking about whether or not you'll get your money back unless you're independently rich. And most people that are rich are too smart to blow such money without thinking about their investment.
Who says I don't have posters in my collection and who said I've spent several thousand on a print???
Then why don't you just buy posters and tributes if you don't care? Why spend several thousand on a print if you don't give a damn about it's value? It's silly to spend a couple grand on these prints without seriously thinking about whether or not you'll get your money back unless you're independently rich. And most people that are rich are too smart to blow such money without thinking about their investment. Who says I don't have posters in my collection and who said I've spent several thousand on a print??? |
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by artfortruth on Aug 21, 2007 17:25:33 GMT 1, When the global markets completely collapse (by design) The value of my collection will be the last thing on my mind.
I just enjoy what I have, when I have it. Just like Faile says: "Nothing Lasts Forever"
When the global markets completely collapse (by design) The value of my collection will be the last thing on my mind.
I just enjoy what I have, when I have it. Just like Faile says: "Nothing Lasts Forever"
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by jam on Aug 21, 2007 17:29:16 GMT 1, I care if the market crashes... any sane person with a large amount invested in art would. Moreover, I am borderline excited at the possibility because it means I will be able to go shopping for pieces I really want to own, but was limited in budget or willingness to spend to get them. It may well be an excellent opportunity to capitalize on a soft market, so have some cash ready! 
I care if the market crashes... any sane person with a large amount invested in art would. Moreover, I am borderline excited at the possibility because it means I will be able to go shopping for pieces I really want to own, but was limited in budget or willingness to spend to get them. It may well be an excellent opportunity to capitalize on a soft market, so have some cash ready! |
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by dgb133 on Aug 21, 2007 17:29:19 GMT 1,
Well congrats on your purchases but if you didn't get in back then the reality is you now need to spend several grand now to get a Banksy print. And before I'm going to give you or anyone several grand for a piece of paper with ink on it. I'm going to give it some serious thought. And while I don't think anybody is here on this forum because the only thing they care about is money. The sad reality is at this point, that money has become a huge part of it. And I also suspect most people that are into street art - don't realy have several grand to drop and can afford to lose it.
Well congrats on your purchases but if you didn't get in back then the reality is you now need to spend several grand now to get a Banksy print. And before I'm going to give you or anyone several grand for a piece of paper with ink on it. I'm going to give it some serious thought. And while I don't think anybody is here on this forum because the only thing they care about is money. The sad reality is at this point, that money has become a huge part of it. And I also suspect most people that are into street art - don't realy have several grand to drop and can afford to lose it.
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by corblimeylimey on Aug 21, 2007 17:36:16 GMT 1, Then why don't you just buy posters and tributes if you don't care? Why spend several thousand on a print if you don't give a damn about it's value? It's silly to spend a couple grand on these prints without seriously thinking about whether or not you'll get your money back unless you're independently rich. And most people that are rich are too smart to blow such money without thinking about their investment.
The most I've paid for a print is £500, the least £25, all are high quality limited edition screen prints the posters in Athena and Ikea and such like don't compare. If it costs me a couple of thousand to fill the house with good quality framed art prints that I like and make my whole environment better it's worth it, you don't expect to get your money back on carpet, curtains, furniture, TV's etc in fact on these items you can barely give the stuff away after a few years.
Then why don't you just buy posters and tributes if you don't care? Why spend several thousand on a print if you don't give a damn about it's value? It's silly to spend a couple grand on these prints without seriously thinking about whether or not you'll get your money back unless you're independently rich. And most people that are rich are too smart to blow such money without thinking about their investment. The most I've paid for a print is £500, the least £25, all are high quality limited edition screen prints the posters in Athena and Ikea and such like don't compare. If it costs me a couple of thousand to fill the house with good quality framed art prints that I like and make my whole environment better it's worth it, you don't expect to get your money back on carpet, curtains, furniture, TV's etc in fact on these items you can barely give the stuff away after a few years. |
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by Yessir on Aug 21, 2007 17:38:48 GMT 1, And before I'm going to give you or anyone several grand for a piece of paper with ink on it. I'm going to give it some serious thought.
Serious thought for what? if you like the piece and can afford it, where is the problem? or you only buy what you are sure you can get your money back for.
And before I'm going to give you or anyone several grand for a piece of paper with ink on it. I'm going to give it some serious thought. Serious thought for what? if you like the piece and can afford it, where is the problem? or you only buy what you are sure you can get your money back for. |
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by baldwin on Aug 21, 2007 17:41:58 GMT 1, Value talk is starting to get very very very very boring. I feel like crying whenever I hear people getting excited about how much stuff is worth.
Value talk is starting to get very very very very boring. I feel like crying whenever I hear people getting excited about how much stuff is worth.
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by dgb133 on Aug 21, 2007 17:45:34 GMT 1, Well that's a good point but curtains, and furniture are practically a necessity while art on the walls isn't. Especially silkscreens as opposed to litho posters. Myself I've sometimes framed prints out of books and they look great. I also have some posters by artists I know I'll never afford. Such is life sometimes.
And while it's great for you that you got your prints at great prices anyone who hasn't already gotten a print needs to really consider the risks. It's one thing if you spent 1 or 2 hundred pounds on Banksy screenprint - it's another spending a couple thousand. And even if you only paid 50 pounds for that Banksy and don't care about the value you have to admit that if dire emergency hit and you really had to sell your assets that you wouldn't be gutted if all of a sudden the going rate drops to 4-500 for an unsigned banksy instead of the 1-2000 right now.
Well that's a good point but curtains, and furniture are practically a necessity while art on the walls isn't. Especially silkscreens as opposed to litho posters. Myself I've sometimes framed prints out of books and they look great. I also have some posters by artists I know I'll never afford. Such is life sometimes.
And while it's great for you that you got your prints at great prices anyone who hasn't already gotten a print needs to really consider the risks. It's one thing if you spent 1 or 2 hundred pounds on Banksy screenprint - it's another spending a couple thousand. And even if you only paid 50 pounds for that Banksy and don't care about the value you have to admit that if dire emergency hit and you really had to sell your assets that you wouldn't be gutted if all of a sudden the going rate drops to 4-500 for an unsigned banksy instead of the 1-2000 right now.
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by pw on Aug 21, 2007 17:47:03 GMT 1, haven't there been enough threads about this already? its starting to get boring.
the truth is that the recent problems with the economy are derived from a crisis in the financial markets and (so far at least) have not spread to the wider economy. there are several precedents to this, where a financial crisis has been contained and not affected the wider economy. the most notable example is the crash of 1987. after this crash the US and UK economies were largely unaffected and continued to boom for several years afterwards. most of you will be aware that the art market peaked in the early nineties.
also, alot of the problem is scaremongering by the media. we get big headlines when the markets drop 5-10%, but we don't hear anything when they rebound by several percentage points the very next day.
of course, noone can predict what will happen with the economy. thats one of the things that makes it interesting.
haven't there been enough threads about this already? its starting to get boring.
the truth is that the recent problems with the economy are derived from a crisis in the financial markets and (so far at least) have not spread to the wider economy. there are several precedents to this, where a financial crisis has been contained and not affected the wider economy. the most notable example is the crash of 1987. after this crash the US and UK economies were largely unaffected and continued to boom for several years afterwards. most of you will be aware that the art market peaked in the early nineties.
also, alot of the problem is scaremongering by the media. we get big headlines when the markets drop 5-10%, but we don't hear anything when they rebound by several percentage points the very next day.
of course, noone can predict what will happen with the economy. thats one of the things that makes it interesting.
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by dgb133 on Aug 21, 2007 17:48:12 GMT 1,
Yeah sorry, not always but usually I only buy art that I think I will be able to get my money or at least most of my money back. Maybe if I was a millionaire it would be different. But how many people on this forum are?
Yeah sorry, not always but usually I only buy art that I think I will be able to get my money or at least most of my money back. Maybe if I was a millionaire it would be different. But how many people on this forum are?
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by corblimeylimey on Aug 21, 2007 17:49:30 GMT 1, And before I'm going to give you or anyone several grand for a piece of paper with ink on it. I'm going to give it some serious thought. Serious thought for what? if you like the piece and can afford it, where is the problem? or you only buy what you are sure you can get your money back for.
It doesn't apply to cars does it, wealthy people will buy an Audi A8 or Range Rover brand new at a cost of £55,000 and sell it three years later with only 20,000 miles on the clock and be lucky to get £20,00, a loss of £35,000 or over £11,000 a year.
And before I'm going to give you or anyone several grand for a piece of paper with ink on it. I'm going to give it some serious thought. Serious thought for what? if you like the piece and can afford it, where is the problem? or you only buy what you are sure you can get your money back for. It doesn't apply to cars does it, wealthy people will buy an Audi A8 or Range Rover brand new at a cost of £55,000 and sell it three years later with only 20,000 miles on the clock and be lucky to get £20,00, a loss of £35,000 or over £11,000 a year. |
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by brainthedog on Aug 21, 2007 17:50:43 GMT 1, I'm a millionaire...just 1 million though...but i think that counts
I'm a millionaire...just 1 million though...but i think that counts
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by ricosg11 on Aug 21, 2007 17:51:05 GMT 1, another interesting aspect to this convo is artists that have large followings(serious backing) but aren't heavily traded/sold/discussed. For example, Swoon and Conor Harrington. I might be way off base but I feel that these two in particular have representation who are doing their best to guard them from the hype and flipping of their work. Being fairly new to the art world, is this a method used to protect an artists value? Is it common? I mean Swoon had three pieces bought up by the MOMA in nyc. For an artist under 30 thats got to be a rather large accomplishment.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
another interesting aspect to this convo is artists that have large followings(serious backing) but aren't heavily traded/sold/discussed. For example, Swoon and Conor Harrington. I might be way off base but I feel that these two in particular have representation who are doing their best to guard them from the hype and flipping of their work. Being fairly new to the art world, is this a method used to protect an artists value? Is it common? I mean Swoon had three pieces bought up by the MOMA in nyc. For an artist under 30 thats got to be a rather large accomplishment.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by dgb133 on Aug 21, 2007 17:51:30 GMT 1,
Cars are on the one hand a bit of a necessity and you do get something in return for your monetary loss. Travel. Art on the other hand is just not a necessity. And also I have known rich people who selectively buy their cars so that they might even gain value. It's apples and oranges.
Last thing I'll post...
It may take months befor it trickles down to the niche markets like this ...but it will trickle.
www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601088&refer=home&sid=aBcp8IRtMfzM
Cars are on the one hand a bit of a necessity and you do get something in return for your monetary loss. Travel. Art on the other hand is just not a necessity. And also I have known rich people who selectively buy their cars so that they might even gain value. It's apples and oranges. Last thing I'll post... It may take months befor it trickles down to the niche markets like this ...but it will trickle. www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601088&refer=home&sid=aBcp8IRtMfzM |
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by stuey09 on Aug 21, 2007 17:53:38 GMT 1, Value talk is starting to get very very very very boring. I feel like crying whenever I hear people getting excited about how much stuff is worth.
Well said Evans. Couldn't agree more.
Value talk is starting to get very very very very boring. I feel like crying whenever I hear people getting excited about how much stuff is worth. Well said Evans. Couldn't agree more. |
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by bobbymeachamjr on Aug 21, 2007 17:54:52 GMT 1, I would "guess" that over 90% of this forum are new "art lovers/investors"...
That alone = very shaky foundation
I would "guess" that over 90% of this forum are new "art lovers/investors"...
That alone = very shaky foundation
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by corblimeylimey on Aug 21, 2007 17:57:25 GMT 1, Well that's a good point but curtains, and furniture are practically a necessity while art on the walls isn't.
That is true, but you can buy curtains from Ikea for about £30 or even less, but I bet the average spend is more like £200, you won't get your money back when you want to change the look.
Regarding the value threads being boring, this thread is not about the value, it's all about not caring about the value.
Well that's a good point but curtains, and furniture are practically a necessity while art on the walls isn't. That is true, but you can buy curtains from Ikea for about £30 or even less, but I bet the average spend is more like £200, you won't get your money back when you want to change the look. Regarding the value threads being boring, this thread is not about the value, it's all about not caring about the value. |
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by corblimeylimey on Aug 21, 2007 18:07:09 GMT 1, Cars are on the one hand a bit of a necessity and you do get something in return for your monetary loss. Travel.
BUT you can get the same travel in a VW Golf and lose £5000 over the same time.
You do get something in return from the art too (as long as it's just not sitting in a tube) it'll make your environment better you'll get pleasure from just looking at it, that IMO is something worth paying for, and it's a small cost too.
Cars are on the one hand a bit of a necessity and you do get something in return for your monetary loss. Travel. BUT you can get the same travel in a VW Golf and lose £5000 over the same time. You do get something in return from the art too (as long as it's just not sitting in a tube) it'll make your environment better you'll get pleasure from just looking at it, that IMO is something worth paying for, and it's a small cost too. |
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by Yessir on Aug 21, 2007 18:07:10 GMT 1, Well that's a good point but curtains, and furniture are practically a necessity while art on the walls isn't. Regarding the value threads being boring, this thread is not about the value, it's all about not caring about the value.
Spot on CBL... you would think the thread title says it all.
Well that's a good point but curtains, and furniture are practically a necessity while art on the walls isn't. Regarding the value threads being boring, this thread is not about the value, it's all about not caring about the value. Spot on CBL... you would think the thread title says it all. |
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by dgb133 on Aug 21, 2007 18:11:24 GMT 1,
Notice how people who say this though seem to be the ones who have paid very little for their prints. If these same people had paid several thousands of dollars for those same prints would they still be singing the same tune about not giving a damn about value?
Notice how people who say this though seem to be the ones who have paid very little for their prints. If these same people had paid several thousands of dollars for those same prints would they still be singing the same tune about not giving a damn about value?
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by RBK on Aug 21, 2007 18:14:42 GMT 1, Notice how people who say this though seem to be the ones who have paid very little for their prints. If these same people had paid several thousands of dollars for those same prints would they still be singing the same tune about not giving a damn about value?
Almost all my Banksy prints have been bought on the secondary market - and I could care less if they go down in value - they are hanging on my walls, I enjoy looking at them every day & I wouldn't even entertain selling them even if prices jumped significantly higher.
Notice how people who say this though seem to be the ones who have paid very little for their prints. If these same people had paid several thousands of dollars for those same prints would they still be singing the same tune about not giving a damn about value? Almost all my Banksy prints have been bought on the secondary market - and I could care less if they go down in value - they are hanging on my walls, I enjoy looking at them every day & I wouldn't even entertain selling them even if prices jumped significantly higher. |
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by Yessir on Aug 21, 2007 18:15:23 GMT 1, haven't there been enough threads about this already? its starting to get boring. of course, noone can predict what will happen with the economy. thats one of the things that makes it interesting.
Are you bored of these threads or interested?
I can't tell, you start by saying you are starting to find these threads boring, but end up dropping the line at the end of your post "thats one of the things that makes it interesting".
haven't there been enough threads about this already? its starting to get boring. of course, noone can predict what will happen with the economy. thats one of the things that makes it interesting. Are you bored of these threads or interested? I can't tell, you start by saying you are starting to find these threads boring, but end up dropping the line at the end of your post "thats one of the things that makes it interesting". |
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by stuey09 on Aug 21, 2007 18:15:31 GMT 1, Notice how people who say this though seem to be the ones who have paid very little for their prints. If these same people had paid several thousands of dollars for those same prints would they still be singing the same tune about not giving a damn about value?
Sorry mate got to disagree with you. The amount that you pay is relative to income regardless. I think the point that CBL and others have made is that they have bought pictures because they appreciate the aesthetics and have not bought with any regard for future value. Seems a perfectly sound perspective.
Notice how people who say this though seem to be the ones who have paid very little for their prints. If these same people had paid several thousands of dollars for those same prints would they still be singing the same tune about not giving a damn about value? Sorry mate got to disagree with you. The amount that you pay is relative to income regardless. I think the point that CBL and others have made is that they have bought pictures because they appreciate the aesthetics and have not bought with any regard for future value. Seems a perfectly sound perspective. |
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by njr911 on Aug 21, 2007 18:18:31 GMT 1, but this is when the vultures art lovers, such as myself and many forum members will be circling and picking off all those lovely bargains. ;D
Thus pushing prices back up.
Same will happen with the housing market, so many people holding off for a crash that if/when the prices do go down the market will be held up by the people waiting on the sidelines jumping in.
but this is when the vultures art lovers, such as myself and many forum members will be circling and picking off all those lovely bargains. ;D Thus pushing prices back up. Same will happen with the housing market, so many people holding off for a crash that if/when the prices do go down the market will be held up by the people waiting on the sidelines jumping in. |
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by corblimeylimey on Aug 21, 2007 18:25:27 GMT 1, Notice how people who say this though seem to be the ones who have paid very little for their prints. If these same people had paid several thousands of dollars for those same prints would they still be singing the same tune about not giving a damn about value?
No one has to pay lots for art, to me paying £500 for a Banksy is enough, I won't pay anymore. What's wrong with buying art at around £100 or maybe even £300? then you won't have to worry about it.
I just said about the cars, I find it strange that anyone would be concerned about losing a thousand pounds on art when they don't care about losing much more on cars etc, art doesn't owe anyone any return, it gives pleasure to the viewer and thats worth paying for.
Value is relative anyway like housing, it doesn't matter if your house goes up or down as the one you're moving into will also have gone up or down, so if you want a change of art and your collection is worth less due to a downturn in the art market, it doesn't matter as what you're buying will have gone down too.
Notice how people who say this though seem to be the ones who have paid very little for their prints. If these same people had paid several thousands of dollars for those same prints would they still be singing the same tune about not giving a damn about value? No one has to pay lots for art, to me paying £500 for a Banksy is enough, I won't pay anymore. What's wrong with buying art at around £100 or maybe even £300? then you won't have to worry about it. I just said about the cars, I find it strange that anyone would be concerned about losing a thousand pounds on art when they don't care about losing much more on cars etc, art doesn't owe anyone any return, it gives pleasure to the viewer and thats worth paying for. Value is relative anyway like housing, it doesn't matter if your house goes up or down as the one you're moving into will also have gone up or down, so if you want a change of art and your collection is worth less due to a downturn in the art market, it doesn't matter as what you're buying will have gone down too. |
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by dgb133 on Aug 21, 2007 18:28:14 GMT 1,
Sorry I have to disagree too. Just because you make XXX amount of money more doens't mean you still won't consider the risks when buying something. It may mean you can move up into a different realm. Such as buying Banksy instead of eelus. Or buying an original instead of a scrennprint. And to anyone that has spent tens of thousands of dollars on prints and doesn't care. Must be nice.
The title of the the thread, price crash who cares. I'm just saying LOTS of people care. If you're not made out of money you DO care. If your paris hilton sure you can drop hundreds on curtains without a second thought. The average bloke does care about what they spend. And as I said earlier (i may be wrong) I would bet most people in the street art world aren't in the same league as the paris hiltons of the world.
But if you have a Banksy print and the unforseen happens so you have to sell do you really expect someone to hand you over several grand without a care? Maybe, but don't count on it...
Sorry I have to disagree too. Just because you make XXX amount of money more doens't mean you still won't consider the risks when buying something. It may mean you can move up into a different realm. Such as buying Banksy instead of eelus. Or buying an original instead of a scrennprint. And to anyone that has spent tens of thousands of dollars on prints and doesn't care. Must be nice.
The title of the the thread, price crash who cares. I'm just saying LOTS of people care. If you're not made out of money you DO care. If your paris hilton sure you can drop hundreds on curtains without a second thought. The average bloke does care about what they spend. And as I said earlier (i may be wrong) I would bet most people in the street art world aren't in the same league as the paris hiltons of the world.
But if you have a Banksy print and the unforseen happens so you have to sell do you really expect someone to hand you over several grand without a care? Maybe, but don't count on it...
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Price Crash Who Cares???, by pw on Aug 21, 2007 18:30:47 GMT 1, haven't there been enough threads about this already? its starting to get boring. of course, noone can predict what will happen with the economy. thats one of the things that makes it interesting. Are you bored of these threads or interested? I can't tell, you start by saying you are starting to find these threads boring, but end up dropping the line at the end of your post "thats one of the things that makes it interesting".
I was talking about the economy not the threads. cant you read? I said "noone can predict what will happen with the economy. thats one of the things that makes it interesting". nice attempt to twist my words though.
haven't there been enough threads about this already? its starting to get boring. of course, noone can predict what will happen with the economy. thats one of the things that makes it interesting. Are you bored of these threads or interested? I can't tell, you start by saying you are starting to find these threads boring, but end up dropping the line at the end of your post "thats one of the things that makes it interesting". I was talking about the economy not the threads. cant you read? I said "noone can predict what will happen with the economy. thats one of the things that makes it interesting". nice attempt to twist my words though. |
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