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Keith haring Coca Cola sign, by met on Sept 29, 2023 9:13:20 GMT 1, Can someone help me understand what this could possibly be worth? Or the rarity of what I own here?
Oh my god and Jesus as well. Give me strength.
What you have is a counterfeit or reproduction Keith Haring.
It is valueless.
And that should have been obvious to you.
Did you not spot your item is different to the sign that was listed on the website of Guernsey's auction house in New York (the third image you posted)?
Start by looking at the godawful signature on yours, which you curiously kept from our view:
Then bring out a measuring tape, to see how the 47 x 40 cm rectangular counterfeit you have compares to the 90 x 90 cm square format from the Guernsey's site:
Can someone help me understand what this could possibly be worth? Or the rarity of what I own here? Oh my god and Jesus as well. Give me strength. What you have is a counterfeit or reproduction Keith Haring. It is valueless. And that should have been obvious to you. Did you not spot your item is different to the sign that was listed on the website of Guernsey's auction house in New York (the third image you posted)? Start by looking at the godawful signature on yours, which you curiously kept from our view: Then bring out a measuring tape, to see how the 47 x 40 cm rectangular counterfeit you have compares to the 90 x 90 cm square format from the Guernsey's site:
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For sale: Obey/Cleon/Chase Hall/Austin Lee canvas, by met on Sept 28, 2023 21:33:31 GMT 1, Maybe this piece is an idyllic juxtaposition of scenes from the Bahamas — before the artist was extradited to the US to fa ce multiple charges of fraud, money laundering and conspiracy. Payment in BTC would normally have been optimal. But for the past 10 months, I've sadly been unable to withdraw any from the cryptocurrency exchange I use. Hope that issue gets sorted out soon. Honest question. Maybe I'm stupid. Are you joking or mixing up names? Sam Bankman-Fried?
I was talking about that shaggy-haired artist bastard, the one whose platform has been preventing me from withdrawing my millions in bitcoin.
Maybe this piece is an idyllic juxtaposition of scenes from the Bahamas — before the artist was extradited to the US to fa ce multiple charges of fraud, money laundering and conspiracy. Payment in BTC would normally have been optimal. But for the past 10 months, I've sadly been unable to withdraw any from the cryptocurrency exchange I use. Hope that issue gets sorted out soon. Honest question. Maybe I'm stupid. Are you joking or mixing up names? Sam Bankman-Fried? I was talking about that shaggy-haired artist bas tard, the one whose platform has been preventing me from withdrawing my millions in bitcoin.
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For sale: Obey/Cleon/Chase Hall/Austin Lee canvas, by met on Sept 28, 2023 20:57:25 GMT 1, I’m selling some canvases/sculptures by artists such as She pard Fai rey, Chase Hall, Sam Friedman, Cleon Peterson, Melike Kara and Austin Lee to fund a restaurant business. These artworks are 1/1 and have been carefully stored in a pristine storage in New York. For interested collectors, we can schedule a viewing. All the pieces have a solid provenance as they were directly purchased from the gallery. If you know any collectors who would be interested in adding some works to their collection, please feel free to share this information with them. I accept payment in BTC/ETH or wire.I have been in this fo rum for quite some time and have greatly enjoyed interacting with collectors here. If you are interested in some works, please send me a DM. [...]
Saw that Friedman in person and it's STUNNING...is it comprised of two separate canvases?
Thank you : ) Yeah, in the middle divide up to 72x120in each. It's at UOVO now.
Maybe this piece is an idyllic juxtaposition of scenes from the Bahamas — before the artist was extradited to the US to face multiple charges of fraud, money laundering and conspiracy.
Payment in BTC would normally have been optimal.
But for the past 10 months, I've sadly been unable to withdraw any from the cryptocurrency exchange I use.
Hope that issue gets sorted out soon.
I’m selling some canvases/sculptures by artists such as She pard Fai rey, Chase Hall, Sam Friedman, Cleon Peterson, Melike Kara and Austin Lee to fund a restaurant business. These artworks are 1/1 and have been carefully stored in a pristine storage in New York. For interested collectors, we can schedule a viewing. All the pieces have a solid provenance as they were directly purchased from the gallery. If you know any collectors who would be interested in adding some works to their collection, please feel free to share this information with them. I accept payment in BTC/ETH or wire.I have been in this fo rum for quite some time and have greatly enjoyed interacting with collectors here. If you are interested in some works, please send me a DM. [...] Saw that Friedman in person and it's STUNNING...is it comprised of two separate canvases? Thank you : ) Yeah, in the middle divide up to 72x120in each. It's at UOVO now. Maybe this piece is an idyllic juxtaposition of scenes from the Bahamas — before the artist was extradited to the US to fa ce multiple charges of fraud, money laundering and conspiracy. Payment in BTC would normally have been optimal. But for the past 10 months, I've sadly been unable to withdraw any from the cryptocurrency exchange I use. Hope that issue gets sorted out soon.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by met on Sept 28, 2023 1:11:42 GMT 1, Changing subject, had an amazing meal at Chef Paul Ainsworth’s restaurant in Padstow last night and he has great art taste too it seems, was nice to spot a framed Mat in there too…
As restaurant decor, it would be a little off-putting for me.
Especially if I had just ordered some seafood.
Changing subject, had an amazing meal at Chef Paul Ainsworth’s restaurant in Padstow last night and he has great art taste too it seems, was nice to spot a framed Mat in there too… As restaurant decor, it would be a little off-putting for me. Especially if I had just ordered some seafood.
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DFace - Silent Ride Print Draw, by met on Sept 26, 2023 6:02:36 GMT 1, Any advice on what to do? I'd rather keep it than flip it, that said I'm skint and have no idea what it might go for. Signed and one of 24. Any thoughts appreciated!T
1. Apologise to the gallery by way of courtesy.
Let them know you'll have to pass on the print. Because you are currently skint, and simply got caught up in the excitement of the draw.
2. Just in case timbooo is an alternate forum account, then be better. By deleting it. By stepping up under your regular username.
Alternate accounts are for the deceitful and the cowardly.
Don't be one of them; it is unnecessary.
Moreover, when we indulge in that kind of dishonesty, it can have a harmful effect on the way we see ourselves. Both as individuals and as members of society.
This in turn may adversely impact the goals we set, our ambitions. And the choices we all make. About whether or not to contribute in this world. About whether or not to reject apathy, or selfishness, or pettiness — and instead be one of the forces for good.
3. Enough preaching. Time for an old joke, courtesy of Popbitch:
A dictator walks into a bar and orders everyone around.
Any advice on what to do? I'd rather keep it than flip it, that said I'm skint and have no idea what it might go for. Signed and one of 24. Any thoughts appreciated!T 1. Apologise to the gallery by way of courtesy. Let them know you'll have to pass on the print. Because you are currently skint, and simply got caught up in the excitement of the draw. 2. Just in case timbooo is an alternate forum account, then be better. By deleting it. By stepping up under your regular username. Alternate accounts are for the deceitful and the cowardly. Don't be one of them; it is unnecessary. Moreover, when we indulge in that kind of dishonesty, it can have a harmful effect on the way we see ourselves. Both as individuals and as members of society. This in turn may adversely impact the goals we set, our ambitions. And the choices we all make. About whether or not to contribute in this world. About whether or not to reject apathy, or selfishness, or pettiness — and instead be one of the forces for good. 3. Enough preaching. Time for an old joke, courtesy of Popbitch: A dictator walks into a bar and orders everyone around.
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Banksy , by met on Sept 22, 2023 21:32:51 GMT 1, Hi i want to buy a banksy basquiat print i have seen one I like and I am in touch with the seller is there a thread on here with advice buying a banksy like how to pay, do you check the print and seller with pest before you buy etc etc any info or help is very welcome many thanks giancarlo
A somewhat disconcerting if not surreal post.
It is you who is the supposed art-world professional here.
You are the one who:
(i) deals in prints for a living, on a daily basis;
(ii) was an early customer of Pictures On Walls and a Banksy collector; and
(iii) has been a member of this message board since 2006.
So when somebody in your position asks strangers on the internet for advice about buying a Banksy print, it might easily suggest:
(a) they're showing signs of MCI;
(b) their forum account has been hacked; or
(c) they're attempting to be humorous.
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But in case your post is actually genuine, then my advice would be as follows:
1. Get a feel for the seller, for their openness, integrity and trustworthiness, including how forthcoming and reasonably prompt they are at answering your questions — whether about the print's history, any previous restoration or repair work carried out on the print (including professional flattening), or the seller's own identity and professional/private contact details.
2. Ensure the print comes with a Pest Control Office certificate of authenticity.
3. Verify the COA, print edition number, and seller details with Pest Control Office beforehand.
4. Consider getting references from the seller for their previous sale transactions, and checking those references.
5. Carefully examine the print in person for any undisclosed condition issues — preferably in a well-lit room with natural sunlight, and ensuring the print is also checked in raking light.
6. Arrange an in-person payment-for-print exchange at a venue you are comfortable with, such as your own business premises or even at a bank — and, if you prefer for security reasons, in the company of one of your family members, friends or colleagues.
7. Choose a payment method that is acceptable to both you and the seller (a bank transfer would typically be the norm for such a large transaction).
8. In addition to the print itself and its corresponding COA, consider asking the seller to provide a signed provenance letter addressed to you — identifying the print by its name and edition number, and setting out its full ownership history and, if applicable, its full exhibition and restoration history.
Hi i want to buy a banksy basquiat print i have seen one I like and I am in touch with the seller is there a thread on here with advice buying a banksy like how to pay, do you check the print and seller with pest before you buy etc etc any info or help is very welcome many thanks giancarlo A somewhat disconcerting if not surreal post. It is you who is the supposed art-world professional here. You are the one who: (i) deals in prints for a living, on a daily basis; (ii) was an early customer of Pic tures On Walls and a Ban ksy collector; and (iii) has been a member of this message board since 2006. So when somebody in your position asks strangers on the internet for advice about buying a Ban ksy print, it might easily suggest: (a) they're showing signs of MCI; (b) their fo rum account has been hacked; or (c) they're attempting to be humorous. __________ But in case your post is actually genuine, then my advice would be as follows: 1. Get a feel for the seller, for their openness, integrity and trustworthiness, including how forthcoming and reasonably prompt they are at answering your questions — whether about the print's history, any previous restoration or repair work carried out on the print (including professional flattening), or the seller's own identity and professional/private contact details. 2. Ensure the print comes with a Pe st Control Office certificate of authenticity. 3. Verify the COA, print edition number, and seller details with Pe st Control Office beforehand. 4. Consider getting references from the seller for their previous sale transactions, and checking those references. 5. Carefully examine the print in person for any undisclosed condition issues — preferably in a well-lit room with natural sunlight, and ensuring the print is also checked in raking light. 6. Arrange an in-person payment-for-print exchange at a venue you are comfortable with, such as your own business premises or even at a bank — and, if you prefer for security reasons, in the company of one of your family members, friends or colleagues. 7. Choose a payment method that is acceptable to both you and the seller (a bank transfer would typically be the norm for such a large transaction). 8. In addition to the print itself and its corresponding COA, consider asking the seller to provide a signed provenance letter addressed to you — identifying the print by its name and edition number, and setting out its full ownership history and, if applicable, its full exhibition and restoration history.
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Banksy in Kiev, Ukraine 🇺🇦, by met on Sept 22, 2023 20:02:20 GMT 1, The war is spreading to Azerbaijan and Armenia. Within the next 24 months the conflict could be much more widespread. And it could concern part of Europe such as Greece, Romania, Albania, etc. If we do not intervene immediately with a great mobilization for Peace by Citizens, this ongoing conflict could explode into a global conflict of interests. Art moves consciences.
Can't work out whether this is a ChatGPT glitch.
Or perhaps just interference from a parallel universe with a reality of its own.
I do however fancy the idea of an immediate intervention (using only mild and definitely non‑nuclear force) with a great mobilisation for peace by citizens.
We should organise a march or something in Ajerbaijan. With giant banners. And where everybody gets a whistle or a pair of maracas to make a load of noise.
My MP is already on side, at least partly. She agreed 100% when I pressed her and insisted peace was better than war. That said, she also point‑blank refused to table this motion in Parliament.
You can never really trust politicians; they're such a slippery bunch, only in it for themselves.
People should talk more and fight less in places like Ukraine.
What we really need is a completely new system with fewer experts. One that's more democratic and suitable for the whole planet — so we can at the same time keep the Chinese and the cartels in check, and deal with recycling and things.
Maybe like a co‑op.
The war is spreading to Azerbaijan and Armenia. Within the next 24 months the conflict could be much more widespread. And it could concern part of Europe such as Greece, Romania, Albania, etc. If we do not intervene immediately with a great mobilization for Peace by Citizens, this ongoing conflict could explode into a global conflict of interests. Art moves consciences. Can't work out whether this is a ChatGPT glitch. Or perhaps just interference from a parallel universe with a reality of its own. I do however fancy the idea of an immediate intervention (using only mild and definitely non‑nuclear force) with a great mobilisation for peace by citizens. We should organise a march or something in Ajerbaijan. With giant banners. And where everybody gets a whistle or a pair of maracas to make a load of noise. My MP is already on side, at least partly. She agreed 100% when I pressed her and insisted peace was better than war. That said, she also point‑blank refused to table this motion in Parliament. You can never really trust politicians; they're such a slippery bunch, only in it for themselves. People should talk more and fight less in places like Ukraine. What we really need is a completely new system with fewer experts. One that's more democratic and suitable for the whole planet — so we can at the same time keep the Chinese and the cartels in check, and deal with recycling and things. Maybe like a co‑op.
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Dirty Love/Clean Love, by met on Sept 19, 2023 18:14:26 GMT 1, [...] U A S are really pleased to give this fo rum the chance to have a sneak peek at a release. More details will be revealed soon, but we have an edition of 5: Dirty Love and Clean Love, I am sure you can guess which is which… In terms of size, these works are 747mm x 525mm x25mm We are also looking at producing some prints too. the artist is having a show at the LV Maison in Se oul so prices will rocket!Please DM for further information or photos. thanks for reading
The ability to predict the future of the artist's market is impressive.
And your confidence in this respect is most contageous; it immediately gave me an amazing sense of confidence as well. Don't even care if it's misplaced, since I'm just buzzing now.
Could a reference to "prices will rocket!" be included as a representation and condition in the sales contract for each of the canvases?
Also (and forgive me for splitting hairs), I'd be very grateful if Urban Art Store could further specify in the contract that prices for the artist will be rocketing "to the moon".
Because if they're heading instead towards the sun, like Icarus, that might kill my buzz.
[...] U A S are really pleased to give this fo rum the chance to have a sneak peek at a release. More details will be revealed soon, but we have an edition of 5: Dirty Love and Clean Love, I am sure you can guess which is which… In terms of size, these works are 747mm x 525mm x25mm We are also looking at producing some prints too. the artist is having a show at the LV Maison in Se oul so prices will rocket!Please DM for further information or photos. thanks for reading The ability to predict the future of the artist's market is impressive. And your confidence in this respect is most contageous; it immediately gave me an amazing sense of confidence as well. Don't even care if it's misplaced, since I'm just buzzing now. Could a reference to "prices will rocket!" be included as a representation and condition in the sales contract for each of the canvases? Also (and forgive me for splitting hairs), I'd be very grateful if Ur ban Art Store could further specify in the contract that prices for the artist will be rocketing "to the moon". Because if they're heading instead towards the sun, like Icarus, that might kill my buzz.
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404, by met on Sept 19, 2023 16:38:31 GMT 1, Hey all, I have one egami etsu original canvas from 2019 considering sell. Acquire directly from artist. Size 53*45 cm. You may not know her, her style is like in the image (see below), let me know if interested . Thank you.
Many interest, but not final deal. Asking for 5800€, very fair price, let me know if interested.
Wasn't previously familiar with Etsu Egami, so thank you for posting.
Composition-wise, the painting isn't especially interesting. And it does feel conceptually derivative, even if knowingly referencing the likes of Ed Ruscha.
But I do appreciate the discipline of Egami's restricted palette. The contrast between cerulean and white also works very well.
Hey all, I have one egami etsu original canvas from 2019 considering sell. Acquire directly from artist. Size 53*45 cm. You may not know her, her style is like in the image (see below), let me know if interested . Thank you. Many interest, but not final deal. Asking for 5800€, very fair price, let me know if interested. Wasn't previously familiar with Etsu Egami, so thank you for posting. Composition-wise, the painting isn't especially interesting. And it does feel conceptually derivative, even if knowingly referencing the likes of Ed Ruscha. But I do appreciate the discipline of Egami's restricted palette. The contrast between cerulean and white also works very well.
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Damien Hirst - The Beautiful Paintings, by met on Sept 18, 2023 1:16:41 GMT 1, they might just be 'kinda ok' or 'quite pleasing to look at', a genuine signature on the front is definitely a bonus. Appears he chooses which colour pen to use depending on the outcome (sounds a bit aspirational to say 'work') credit: photo taken from eb ay listing by southrop66 Some of them may look okay but I would be embarrassed to provide this to one of my "patrons". Hideous
In fairness, it was those very patrons who helped design their own pieces online with the Spin Paintings algorithm.
This is what made The Beautiful Paintings conceptually interesting as a project.
Granted, however, the completed giclée canvases in tondo format were always going to be too kitsch and cheap-looking for me as well. Either that, or not kitsch and cheap-looking enough.
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But regardless of how any of us feels about this recent artistic venture, it takes nothing away from the man's talent as an author and storyteller.
Trainspotting the original novel is just so much better than its 1996 film adaptation by Danny Boyle.
they might just be 'kinda ok' or 'quite pleasing to look at', a genuine signature on the front is definitely a bonus. Appears he chooses which colour pen to use depending on the outcome (sounds a bit aspirational to say 'work') credit: photo taken from eb ay listing by southrop66 Some of them may look okay but I would be embarrassed to provide this to one of my "patrons". Hideous In fairness, it was those very patrons who helped design their own pieces online with the Spin Paintings algorithm. This is what made The Beautiful Paintings conceptually interesting as a project. Granted, however, the completed giclée canvases in tondo format were always going to be too kitsch and cheap-looking for me as well. Either that, or not kitsch and cheap-looking enough. __________ But regardless of how any of us feels about this recent artistic venture, it takes nothing away from the man's talent as an author and storyteller. Trainspotting the original novel is just so much better than its 1996 film adaptation by Danny Boyle.
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Ai Weiwei Coca-Cola Glass Vase, by met on Sept 17, 2023 9:41:30 GMT 1, Can AA bust out a Cocaine vase so that we can all have something to be happy about? Can fill a red one with cocaine
If you own a vase please do us all a favour and stop sharing every OVERPRICED listing to try and make us think you own something worth more than it actually is. Rather than obsessing over prices, try sticking it on a shelf and enjoy looking at it instead. #mosttediousthreadof2023 To be fair both sides making the thread pretty tedious, luckily only a few though. here’s one on a shelf, waiting to be filled with cocaine for the next party. I like it, but it’s just a red coke cola vase. Who cares.
Be careful with cocaine.
It is illegal, and apparently a gateway drug to vaping and energy drinks.
You risk ending up like one of those depraved wretches we sometimes see on public transport during morning rush hour — hunched over, furtively sipping (sometimes using both hands) from their jumbo cans of Red Bull.
Can AA bust out a Cocaine vase so that we can all have something to be happy about? Can fill a red one with cocaine If you own a vase please do us all a favour and stop sharing every OVERPRICED listing to try and make us think you own something worth more than it actually is. Rather than obsessing over prices, try sticking it on a shelf and enjoy looking at it instead. #mosttediousthreadof2023 To be fair both sides making the thread pretty tedious, luckily only a few though. here’s one on a shelf, waiting to be filled with cocaine for the next party. I like it, but it’s just a red coke cola vase. Who cares. Be careful with cocaine. It is illegal, and apparently a gateway drug to vaping and energy drinks. You risk ending up like one of those depraved wretches we sometimes see on public transport during morning rush hour — hunched over, furtively sipping (sometimes using both hands) from their jumbo cans of Red Bull.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by met on Sept 14, 2023 3:40:50 GMT 1, I was considering buying a new Banksy print and a friend send me a link to an ongoing Christie's auction. onlineonly.christies.com/s/contemporary-edition/lots/3309?page=2&sortby=LotNumberThey had a total of 17 prints for sale, with some excellent pieces. The starting bid prices seem to be fairly competitive. Anyone bought from them in the past? Do you know the upsides and downsides from buying from them? Would love to hear people's opinion.
1. Leaving aside purchasing directly from source, it would be difficult to get better provenance than for an auction item coming from Christie's or Sotheby's — even if it is but a mere online‑only sale.
The flipside is that there is often a premium attached to such desirable provenance.
All other things being equal, including any condition issues, you may very well be able to secure the same editioned artworks more cheaply at second or third‑tier auction houses. Or at frankly-dodgy auction houses or other platforms like eBay, where much greater caution and enhanced verification checks become necessary.
2. If serious about any of the Christie's lots, make sure to attend one of the viewing days at 8 King Street, London SW1Y 6QT*.
Relying solely on condition reports can be unwise in my opinion, especially if you have the opportunity to see the relevant lots in person.
3. Should you decide to register to bid, do your pricing due diligence beforehand on any artworks of interest.
Then set maximum bid limits for yourself. It is worth writing these figures down on a sheet of paper, and undertaking to not exceed them.
Provided you've done your homework thoroughly on recent sale results for identical or comparable editioned pieces (in the current market, stick to auction results from the last 12 months), your maximum bid limits should normally be defensible.
What you should seek to expressly avoid is becoming emotional while bidding. This easily occurs in the heat of the moment.
When others are competing against us for the same lots, our egos can interfere with the rational decision-making process. We then risk "winning" stupidly, by paying above the odds, instead of walking away if the bidding goes beyond our preset limits.
4. As already referred to in this thread, remember to add 35–36% on top of each bid you make.
The final amount due to the auction house will be the hammer price, plus the buyer's premium of 26%, VAT at 20% on the buyer's premium, and the droit de suite / artist's resale royalty. You may also need to factor in separate shipping charges.
See section D of the Christie's Conditions of Sale*.
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Scanning this Contemporary Edition sale, what strikes me most is the following:
The two Josh Sperling items (lots 4* and 11*) and the Javier Calleja diptych (lot 135*) have already received bidding at levels in excess of their artistic value.
And there are still two weeks left to go.
Sadly, that leaves me out of the running for those pieces.
Just can't compete with the high‑rollin' sneaker boyz. All I can do is eat their dust.
Lot 4
Lot 11
Lot 135
I was considering buying a new Banksy print and a friend send me a link to an ongoing Christie's auction. onlineonly.christies.com/s/contemporary-edition/lots/3309?page=2&sortby=LotNumberThey had a total of 17 prints for sale, with some excellent pieces. The starting bid prices seem to be fairly competitive. Anyone bought from them in the past? Do you know the upsides and downsides from buying from them? Would love to hear people's opinion. 1. Leaving aside purchasing directly from source, it would be difficult to get better provenance than for an auction item coming from Chris tie's or Soth eby's — even if it is but a mere online‑only sale. The flipside is that there is often a premium attached to such desirable provenance. All other things being equal, including any condition issues, you may very well be able to secure the same editioned artworks more cheaply at second or third‑tier auction houses. Or at frankly-dodgy auction houses or other platforms like eB ay, where much greater caution and enhanced verification checks become necessary. 2. If serious about any of the Chris tie's lots, make sure to attend one of the viewing days at 8 King Street, Lon don SW1Y 6QT *. Relying solely on condition reports can be unwise in my opinion, especially if you have the opportunity to see the relevant lots in person. 3. Should you decide to register to bid, do your pricing due diligence beforehand on any artworks of interest. Then set maximum bid limits for yourself. It is worth writing these figures down on a sheet of paper, and undertaking to not exceed them. Provided you've done your homework thoroughly on recent sale results for identical or comparable editioned pieces (in the current market, stick to auction results from the last 12 months), your maximum bid limits should normally be defensible. What you should seek to expressly avoid is becoming emotional while bidding. This easily occurs in the heat of the moment. When others are competing against us for the same lots, our egos can interfere with the rational decision-making process. We then risk "winning" stupidly, by paying above the odds, instead of walking away if the bidding goes beyond our preset limits. 4. As already referred to in this thread, remember to add 35–36% on top of each bid you make. The final amount due to the auction house will be the hammer price, plus the buyer's premium of 26%, VAT at 20% on the buyer's premium, and the droit de suite / artist's resale royalty. You may also need to factor in separate shipping charges. See section D of the Chris tie's Conditions of Sale *. __________ Scanning this Contemporary Edition sale, what strikes me most is the following: The two Josh Sperling items (lots 4 * and 11 *) and the Javier Calleja diptych (lot 135 *) have already received bidding at levels in excess of their artistic value. And there are still two weeks left to go. Sadly, that leaves me out of the running for those pieces. Just can't compete with the high‑rollin' sneaker boyz. All I can do is eat their dust. Lot 4Lot 11Lot 135
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Banksy Show • Cut & Run • Glasgow , by met on Sept 12, 2023 17:27:12 GMT 1, Oh wait they've deleted their account. Never mind I could sense something did not appear right hence calling them out on their previous sales. Today, they have also changed the name of their eB ay account from jsub321 to tacotuesday47It looks like they are trying to cover/hide their tracks. Hopefully no one here got duped into buying as the seller ended the listing on eB ay. If anyone bought from jsub321 and not received their goods they should make an immediate claim on eB ay. The seller has gone AWOL by putting a message on eB ay that they are away until Monday 9th October (see message in blue).
Your original post on 10 September at 15:23 UK time, rightly challenging @artyparty08 on their recent eBay sales, looks to have been the catalyst for them to:
(i) promptly delete their forum account here;
(ii) end their eBay listing shortly afterwards, for the combined lot of Cut & Run ephemera, including a staff traffic cone earring;
(iii) change their eBay username from jsub321 to tacotuesday47; and
(iv) go into hiding, possibly until October.
However, I suspect this was due to @artyparty08 simply having gone into panic mode, rather than for the purpose of scamming buyers and then fleeing.
"Panic mode", because you shed light on their unscrupulous behaviour while they were actually working at the GoMA exhibition.
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1. The conflict of interest had already begun just one week into the show — on 22 June, when @artyparty08 / jsub321 / tacotuesday47 first created three different auction listings on eBay (ending on 25, 27 and 29 June).
2. Few would have begrudged Cut & Run staff if they had offloaded a couple of gift shop items after the GoMA exhibition had ended.
But for one staff member to do so while the show was still running was poor form, an abuse of their position, and quite possibly a breach of their employment contract — since it clearly wasn't what the artist would have wanted.
The sheer volume of their selling on eBay is another issue altogether.
We're not talking about a couple of trinkets. Or even a few.
Some figures for sales by @artyparty08 on eBay alone (i.e. excluding any private dealings they may have arranged via this forum or elsewhere):
(i) number of completed transactions: 69
(ii) number of individual items sold: 178 or thereabouts
(iii) combined sale proceeds: around £2,800*
*This total assumes that, where the relevant eBay listings were Buy‑It‑Now listings with a 'Best Offer' option, the offers accepted by the seller amounted on average to 75‑80% of the original listed price.
3. Of particular interest to me are the sales of complimentary stickers.
Banksy had intended that these stickers be gifted to visitors as they exited the show. To enhance the experience even further with a little surprise at the end. Because everybody loves a nice freebie.
So what does @artyparty08 / jsub321 / tacotuesday47 chose to do instead?
They pocket a large number for themselves and list handfulls on eBay.
Stickers? For you and the children, who made the trip to Glasgow all the way from Brighton, just to see the exhibition? No, I'm sorry, ma'am. No can do. We've completely run out of them today.
It is also worth noting that their eBay listings, when viewed collectively instead of individually, can be misleading.
Because a significant proportion are multi‑quantity listings, with each of those listings selling multiple copies — whether 3 at a time, or 6, or 9, or 15, etc:
The completed sale listings indicate that, between 6 August and 10 September 2023, @artyparty08 sold 109 stickers on eBay (at prices up to £23.99 apiece).
That is quite the stash.
And it is unlikely they could acquire such numbers legitimately, i.e. without stealing from their employer — whether that employer be GoMA or Pest Control Office.
This may be one reason for the sudden desire by @artyparty08 to cover their tracks and lie low awhile.
4. Note the debit/credit card receipts that form part of the eBay sales for some of the stickers or sticker/badge combinations.
The same two photos with the same two receipts are used for a number of the listings.
And neither receipt is the original; they are both duplicate receipts, marked accordingly as "Duplicate".
Example listings:
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134681193321
Detail
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134681649725
Detail
@artyparty08 or one of their colleagues may well have had access to the gift shop card machine.
From one card transaction, multiple copies of duplicate receipts could have been printed out — with each of these duplicates thereafter being potentially misused as fake provenance documentation for completely separate items.
If, for example, a thieving employee managed to steal a stack of Louise Michel patches during one of their shifts, they might also seek to procure false provenance for their loot.
This could be obtained simply by:
(a) purchasing one patch from the gift shop, or waiting for a gallery visitor to do so; and
(b) then covertly printing out from the card machine as many duplicates of their receipt as required.
Whether dozens or hundreds, any number of duplicate receipts could therefore be printed from a single transaction, provided one had possession of the relevant card machine.
[They could later be misused as fake provenance, not just for unrelated authentic items, but also for counterfeits acquired elsewhere.]
This is especially convenient for multi‑quantity listings on eBay, if each sale is touted as being accompanied by its own receipt.
[Provenance‑documentation caveat for collectors
If a seller suggests a duplicate receipt from a card machine is in itself adequate documentation to support the provenance of a multiple that you wish to buy (where the receipt also makes no reference to an edition number or other item‑specific feature), such a statement is false. It is belied by the above illustration.
Demand the original card machine receipt, of which there will be but one genuine hard copy.
Comparable deficiencies exist with generically-drafted emailed receipts and invoices. These too can be printed endlessly. And then misapplied as supporting documentation to unrelated artworks or to counterfeits.]
5. @artyparty08 appears to have sold or attempted to sell on eBay two of the staff traffic cone earrings:
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134712624191
Completed sale dated 2 September 2023
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134720922150
Listing ended early on 10 September 2023
Although we are ignorant of the circumstances, let us hope the second earring wasn't acquired by @artyparty08 from one of their colleagues under false pretences:
Hey mate, in case you don't really want yours, please could I have it for my kid sister? She would be eternally gratefully if she could add one of these to her collection of earrings. I could offer you £20 for it.
Not too difficult to imagine a scenario where a kind‑hearted member of staff (largely oblivious of the market for Banksy ephemera) hands over their own earring to @artyparty08 — only for that collectible to be promptly sold on eBay for £400.
It is one thing to screw over your employer, the person or entity who's given you a job. But exploiting the benevolence and naivety of a colleague would arguably require a level of callousness that is even more amplified.
6. Imagine having the good fortune of being hired for an exhibition‑event like Cut & Run.
One would assume most people would be counting their lucky stars and trying to enjoy the brief moment while it lasted. Making the most of such a once-in-a-lifetime adventure.
Now query what type of person has a mindset akin to the following:
I am sort of grateful, both to the gallery and the artist. And I also don't wish to appear ungrateful for the opportunity that's been handed to me on a plate.
But, at the same time, it isn't quite enough. Put simply, I want more. Frankly, I deserve more. So let's look around to see what I can pilfer and sell on eBay.
7. One of the more depressing aspects of this episode is that the actions of @artyparty08 have cast a small shadow over their fellow staff members.
These are people who were commendable, helping to make the Cut & Run experience so enjoyable for visitors.
Yet they now find themselves ever-so-slightly tainted by association. @artyparty08's little side business reflects on and let down the entire exhibition team at GoMA.
Not a huge deal, of course, especially given the massive overall success of the event. But still a bit of a drag. And certainly unwelcome for those on the team who behaved impeccably, maintaining their integrity and professionalism throughout the duration of the show.
8. Whether it's politicians, cops, teachers, or more trivial cases involving staff working at institutions like museums, I have limited sympathy for individuals who abuse their positions along with the trust that others have placed in them.
They undermine public confidence.
They make all of us a little more cynical as a society. A little less generous in spirit. A little less open to the prospect of taking a chance with, or giving our time to, somebody we don't know.
9. Apologies for the long‑winded post, which could have been drafted far more succinctly:
Good riddance to @artyparty08.
Oh wait they've deleted their account. Never mind I could sense something did not appear right hence calling them out on their previous sales. Today, they have also changed the name of their eB ay account from jsub321 to tacotuesday47It looks like they are trying to cover/hide their tracks. Hopefully no one here got duped into buying as the seller ended the listing on eB ay. If anyone bought from jsub321 and not received their goods they should make an immediate claim on eB ay. The seller has gone AWOL by putting a message on eB ay that they are away until Monday 9th October (see message in blue). Your original post on 10 September at 15:23 UK time, rightly challenging @ artyparty08 on their recent eB ay sales, looks to have been the catalyst for them to: (i) promptly delete their fo rum account here; (ii) end their eB ay listing shortly afterwards, for the combined lot of Cut & Run ephemera, including a staff traffic cone earring; (iii) change their eB ay username from jsub321 to tacotuesday47; and (iv) go into hiding, possibly until October. However, I suspect this was due to @artyparty08 simply having gone into panic mode, rather than for the purpose of scamming buyers and then fleeing. "Panic mode", because you shed light on their unscrupulous behaviour while they were actually working at the GoMA exhibition. __________ ADDITIONAL COMMENTARY1. The conflict of interest had already begun just one week into the show — on 22 June, when @ artyparty08 / jsub321 / tacotuesday47 first created three different auction listings on eB ay (ending on 25, 27 and 29 June). 2. Few would have begrudged Cut & Run staff if they had offloaded a couple of gift shop items after the GoMA exhibition had ended. But for one staff member to do so while the show was still running was poor form, an abuse of their position, and quite possibly a breach of their employment contract — since it clearly wasn't what the artist would have wanted. The sheer volume of their selling on eB ay is another issue altogether. We're not talking about a couple of trinkets. Or even a few. Some figures for sales by @artyparty08 on eBay alone (i.e. excluding any private dealings they may have arranged via this fo rum or elsewhere): (i) number of completed transactions: 69(ii) number of individual items sold: 178 or thereabouts (iii) combined sale proceeds: around £2,800* * This total assumes that, where the relevant eBay listings were Buy‑It‑Now listings with a 'Best Offer' option, the offers accepted by the seller amounted on average to 75‑80% of the original listed price.3. Of particular interest to me are the sales of complimentary stickers. Ban ksy had intended that these stickers be gifted to visitors as they exited the show. To enhance the experience even further with a little surprise at the end. Because everybody loves a nice freebie. So what does @artyparty08 / jsub321 / tacotuesday47 chose to do instead? They pocket a large number for themselves and list handfulls on eB ay. Stickers? For you and the children, who made the trip to Glasgow all the way from Brighton, just to see the exhibition? No, I'm sorry, ma'am. No can do. We've completely run out of them today.It is also worth noting that their eB ay listings, when viewed collectively instead of individually, can be misleading. Because a significant proportion are multi‑quantity listings, with each of those listings selling multiple copies — whether 3 at a time, or 6, or 9, or 15, etc: The completed sale listings indicate that, between 6 August and 10 September 2023, @artyparty08 sold 109 stickers on eBay (at prices up to £23.99 apiece). That is quite the stash. And it is unlikely they could acquire such numbers legitimately, i.e. without stealing from their employer — whether that employer be GoMA or Pest Control Office. This may be one reason for the sudden desire by @artyparty08 to cover their tracks and lie low awhile. 4. Note the debit/credit card receipts that form part of the eB ay sales for some of the stickers or sticker/badge combinations. The same two photos with the same two receipts are used for a number of the listings. And neither receipt is the original; they are both duplicate receipts, marked accordingly as "Duplicate". Example listings:www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134681193321Detailwww.ebay.co.uk/itm/134681649725Detail@artyparty08 or one of their colleagues may well have had access to the gift shop card machine. From one card transaction, multiple copies of duplicate receipts could have been printed out — with each of these duplicates thereafter being potentially misused as fake provenance documentation for completely separate items. If, for example, a thieving employee managed to steal a stack of Louise Michel patches during one of their shifts, they might also seek to procure false provenance for their loot. This could be obtained simply by: (a) purchasing one patch from the gift shop, or waiting for a gallery visitor to do so; and (b) then covertly printing out from the card machine as many duplicates of their receipt as required. Whether dozens or hundreds, any number of duplicate receipts could therefore be printed from a single transaction, provided one had possession of the relevant card machine. [They could later be misused as fake provenance, not just for unrelated authentic items, but also for counterfeits acquired elsewhere.]This is especially convenient for multi‑quantity listings on eB ay, if each sale is touted as being accompanied by its own receipt. [Provenance‑documentation caveat for collectors
If a seller suggests a duplicate receipt from a card machine is in itself adequate documentation to support the provenance of a multiple that you wish to buy (where the receipt also makes no reference to an edition number or other item‑specific feature), such a statement is false. It is belied by the above illustration.
Demand the original card machine receipt, of which there will be but one genuine hard copy.
Comparable deficiencies exist with generically-drafted emailed receipts and invoices. These too can be printed endlessly. And then misapplied as supporting documentation to unrelated artworks or to counterfeits.]5. @artyparty08 appears to have sold or attempted to sell on eB ay two of the staff traffic cone earrings: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134712624191Completed sale dated 2 September 2023www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134720922150Listing ended early on 10 September 2023Although we are ignorant of the circumstances, let us hope the second earring wasn't acquired by @artyparty08 from one of their colleagues under false pretences: Hey mate, in case you don't really want yours, please could I have it for my kid sister? She would be eternally gratefully if she could add one of these to her collection of earrings. I could offer you £20 for it.Not too difficult to imagine a scenario where a kind‑hearted member of staff (largely oblivious of the market for Ban ksy ephemera) hands over their own earring to @artyparty08 — only for that collectible to be promptly sold on eB ay for £400. It is one thing to screw over your employer, the person or entity who's given you a job. But exploiting the benevolence and naivety of a colleague would arguably require a level of callousness that is even more amplified. 6. Imagine having the good fortune of being hired for an exhibition‑event like Cut & Run. One would assume most people would be counting their lucky stars and trying to enjoy the brief moment while it lasted. Making the most of such a once-in-a-lifetime adventure. Now query what type of person has a mindset akin to the following: I am sort of grateful, both to the gallery and the artist. And I also don't wish to appear ungrateful for the opportunity that's been handed to me on a plate.
But, at the same time, it isn't quite enough. Put simply, I want more. Frankly, I deserve more. So let's look around to see what I can pilfer and sell on eBay.7. One of the more depressing aspects of this episode is that the actions of @artyparty08 have cast a small shadow over their fellow staff members. These are people who were commendable, helping to make the Cut & Run experience so enjoyable for visitors. Yet they now find themselves ever-so-slightly tainted by association. @artyparty08's little side business reflects on and let down the entire exhibition team at GoMA. Not a huge deal, of course, especially given the massive overall success of the event. But still a bit of a drag. And certainly unwelcome for those on the team who behaved impeccably, maintaining their integrity and professionalism throughout the duration of the show. 8. Whether it's politicians, cops, teachers, or more trivial cases involving staff working at institutions like museums, I have limited sympathy for individuals who abuse their positions along with the trust that others have placed in them. They undermine public confidence. They make all of us a little more cynical as a society. A little less generous in spirit. A little less open to the prospect of taking a chance with, or giving our time to, somebody we don't know. 9. Apologies for the long‑winded post, which could have been drafted far more succinctly: Good riddance to @artyparty08.
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Banksy Show • Cut & Run • Glasgow , by met on Sept 12, 2023 16:23:51 GMT 1, Had a few people on the forum privately message me about buying the cut-and-run staff earing with a few extras, so I have finally decided to just put it on eBay and see what happens if anyone is interested. DM me if you have any questions, and I'll be more than happy to get in touch and just chat www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134720922150You have managed to sell a fair bit already judging from your ebay sales below. This probably explains why a lot of people struggled to get the free stickers when staff were helping themselves and selling them.
Well-spotted, and thank you for posting.
It is disappointing to learn about these details.
But better to be aware of an unfortunate truth than to continue living under a misapprehension.
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Remember the first two posts by @artyparty08 only a fortnight ago? At the time, these were rather endearing:
Sadly, it would now seem they were probably less concerned about our thoughts regarding the staff at Cut & Run, than about keeping an eye on potential market interest for their little side business in Banksy ephemera.
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In case it is more reader-friendly for some members, below are the sold eBay listings by @artyparty08 that you already posted, but in a slightly larger format.
The screenshots were taken just prior to them changing their eBay username from jsub321 to tacotuesday47:
www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_ssn=tacotuesday47&LH_Complete=1
Had a few people on the forum privately message me about buying the cut-and-run staff earing with a few extras, so I have finally decided to just put it on eBay and see what happens if anyone is interested. DM me if you have any questions, and I'll be more than happy to get in touch and just chat www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134720922150You have managed to sell a fair bit already judging from your ebay sales below. This probably explains why a lot of people struggled to get the free stickers when staff were helping themselves and selling them. Well-spotted, and thank you for posting. It is disappointing to learn about these details. But better to be aware of an unfortunate truth than to continue living under a misapprehension. __________ Remember the first two posts by @ artyparty08 only a fortnight ago? At the time, these were rather endearing: Sadly, it would now seem they were probably less concerned about our thoughts regarding the staff at Cut & Run, than about keeping an eye on potential market interest for their little side business in Ban ksy ephemera. __________ In case it is more reader-friendly for some members, below are the sold eB ay listings by @ artyparty08 that you already posted, but in a slightly larger format. The screenshots were taken just prior to them changing their eB ay username from jsub321 to tacotuesday47: www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_ssn=tacotuesday47&LH_Complete=1
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Banksy Show • Cut & Run • Glasgow , by met on Sept 12, 2023 16:05:27 GMT 1,
While there isn't a direct connection, the artist could indeed have been inspired by the Depp vs Heard saga.
Some admittedly-pedantic, further distinctions I'd make is that, with respect to Banksy's piece:
(i) the subject matter relates to male-on-female domestic violence;
(ii) the victim has apparently snapped and retaliated lethally; and
(iii) no indication exists of the abuser-perpetrator having tried to gaslight the world by painting themselves as the primary victim in their toxic relationship.
While there isn't a direct connection, the artist could indeed have been inspired by the Depp vs Heard saga. Some admittedly-pedantic, further distinctions I'd make is that, with respect to Ban ksy's piece: (i) the subject matter relates to male-on-female domestic violence; (ii) the victim has apparently snapped and retaliated lethally; and (iii) no indication exists of the abuser-perpetrator having tried to gaslight the world by painting themselves as the primary victim in their toxic relationship.
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Nick Smith 🇬🇧 Pixelated Art • Colour Swatches • New Print, by met on Sept 9, 2023 19:36:01 GMT 1, Mine was delivered in this tube...
Never have I previously felt this particular kind of envy.
Wish my weeds were as classy as yours.
Mine was delivered in this tube... Never have I previously felt this particular kind of envy. Wish my weeds were as classy as yours.
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Invader Homeworks, by met on Sept 8, 2023 15:01:12 GMT 1, Hello, I have this Invader on offer with the original POW tube dated back in 2006 and the POW protective paper. It had been framed since 2006. I would prefer personal processing in Germany or shipping within Europe as well. My offer would be €12,000.00 - write me a PM. [...] Has to be the funniest hiding of an edition number I think I’ve seen. I’m gonna throw it out there and say it’s a 2..
The photograph with the index finger gave me a chuckle as well.
That said, I didn't see this as a genuine attempt to hide the edition number (at least not at the time of posting).
It felt more tactical to me, like playfully-clever marketing:
A knowingly-amusing feint.
One that could provoke a reaction from other members, including commentary from the likes of ourselves — thereby eliciting engagement and further promoting the sale of the artwork.
Although I am not looking to purchase an Invader screenprint, I would nevertheless tip my hat to the seller.
Hello, I have this Invader on offer with the original POW tube dated back in 2006 and the POW protective paper. It had been framed since 2006. I would prefer personal processing in Germany or shipping within Europe as well. My offer would be €12,000.00 - write me a PM. [...] Has to be the funniest hiding of an edition number I think I’ve seen. I’m gonna throw it out there and say it’s a 2.. The photograph with the index finger gave me a chuckle as well. That said, I didn't see this as a genuine attempt to hide the edition number (at least not at the time of posting). It felt more tactical to me, like playfully-clever marketing: A knowingly-amusing feint. One that could provoke a reaction from other members, including commentary from the likes of ourselves — thereby eliciting engagement and further promoting the sale of the artwork. Although I am not looking to purchase an Inv ader screenprint, I would nevertheless tip my hat to the seller.
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Heritage Auctions 🇺🇲, by met on Sept 7, 2023 21:21:38 GMT 1,
Heritage Urban
In the interest of transparency, could you confirm which Urban Art specialist at Heritage Auctions posts (or usually posts) under your username?
My impression is that you are the Consignment Director in Urban Art, Walter Ramirez, from the New York office.
Would this be correct?
Thank you in advance for the helpful clarification.
Heritage UrbanIn the interest of transparency, could you confirm which Ur ban Art specialist at Her itage Auctions posts (or usually posts) under your username? My impression is that you are the Consignment Director in Ur ban Art, Walter Ramirez, from the New Y ork office. Would this be correct? Thank you in advance for the helpful clarification.
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Banksy Book • 25 Year of Card Labour, by met on Sept 7, 2023 17:23:16 GMT 1,
Im going to hazard a guess you work for the Herald? two posts here both about the Herald selling things. The photos you’ve posted are not taken from the website, they must be Herald ones and you’ve also taken the time to name them all correctly for imgbb So, can you tell us if these are authorised or not? Its gone very quite..... digital camera art may be taking photos... unauthorised I guess.
Indeed, dcamart has thus far remained silent. But the more puzzling aspect is they deleted their promotional post shortly after storm breaker asked whether The Herald's selling of the individual framed photos was authorised by Banksy / Pest Control Office.
It was a legitimate question.
And the expectation by potential buyers of transparency as to the status of these photos is also fair.
From an optics perspective, even if selling the images never received express consent from the Banksy team (and their actual status was therefore ambiguous at best), a simple confirmation of that fact would have come across as less suspect than deleting the original post and trying to dodge the issue.
dcamart — Any comment?
My hope is that you will return and offer us some clarification.
I trust this hope is not unreasonable.
Im going to hazard a guess you work for the Herald? two posts here both about the Herald selling things. The photos you’ve posted are not taken from the website, they must be Herald ones and you’ve also taken the time to name them all correctly for imgbb So, can you tell us if these are authorised or not? Its gone very quite..... digital camera art may be taking photos... unauthorised I guess. Indeed, dcamart has thus far remained silent. But the more puzzling aspect is they deleted their promotional post shortly after storm breaker asked whether The Herald's selling of the individual framed photos was authorised by Ban ksy / Pest Control Office. It was a legitimate question. And the expectation by potential buyers of transparency as to the status of these photos is also fair. From an optics perspective, even if selling the images never received express consent from the Ban ksy team (and their actual status was therefore ambiguous at best), a simple confirmation of that fact would have come across as less suspect than deleting the original post and trying to dodge the issue. dcamart — Any comment? My hope is that you will return and offer us some clarification. I trust this hope is not unreasonable.
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Paul Insect - Super Glow SWAP SHOP - CLOSED, by met on Sept 4, 2023 16:35:14 GMT 1, A MESSAGE FROM PAUL: I now know how Sharon Osbourne feels judging The X Factor. Over 400 swap’s entered, and the range of swap's wildly diverse. Pile's of plastic, body parts, dead fish, magic lesson’s and lots of sentimental objects, some swap's I’d say were boarder line child trafficking lol. Annoyingly, Simon Cowell and Mel B pulled out from the judging panel yesterday. So I was left with no choice but to embrace the power of a high-performance, military grade quantum supercomputer to run advanced data scaling calculations of every comprehensive digital swap received across all official cybernated ecosystem’s. Simulating multiple sizeable rendered files, and deploying a wealth of classical physics programs un-known to humankind. The vast supercollider’s conducting processor’s excited the self alternative AI nano transformative technology's to optimise and compress the complex swap megadata. It did struggled at first due to the degree of complexity’s, no computer has the working memory to handle all possible swap permutation's presented. Combining never before seen technique's, and integrating error mitigation hypothesis, molecular behavioural algorithm's began to weave new synthetic tunnels with faster multidimensional approaches to solving the reduced decision pattern in this accelerating problem to discover the final answer's. Circuits of chemical ions trapped within magnetic lithium fields, self developed multiple, tactical and cloud-based models which led to the analogue computing of the all important, and final automated list of winners. I've been advised, not to argue with the computer's final decision. Winning swaps in no particular order • Dottman crochets plush • Uri Gellers spoons • Pins Advent Meme Calendar 2023 • FBI Identikit • Derwent ltd pencil set • LSD is my problem child • OJ Simpson family photo • The Paul Insect, In sect Hotel** Thanks to everyone who took part. Your swaps were great! Your data has been stored and will be used at a later date. All the lucky winners shall be contacted. I've have decided to offer ten runner up prizes, it was that hard to choose. The problems I give myself. Due to the number of amazing swaps entered. The swaps listed below shall receive a special consolation prize for their swap submission. You will be contacted. • Carbon Prosthetic running leg - Thank you for your swap offer • 2hrs Free Child Care on the Dover to Calais Ferry crossing. - can you do 25 May 2026? • Magic Lessons with DNA Darren - sounds fun • 20ton restored tramway tram.- Would love to come and visit one day. • Grandparents used gravestone • 6m tall inflatable waving blue H - Really wanted this. • The human owl man - You were on and off the top list so many times. • Deflated pineapple pool - classy • Full size Egyptian sarcophagus - May be in Australia later this year so can test the fit, • Bottle of Sauternes 1971 - Perfect to finish this list off.
Well done AA and PINS for such a great comp👌Congrats to all the worthy winners... except Owl Man aka Postal Pirate aka Kyle who's a dirty scammer and should receive nothing but a court summons
If Paul Insect has the time and inclination to read the forum thread below, it may offer him some inspiration when deciding what special consolation prize would be most suited for dregs of society like the human owl man, Postal Pirate.
urbanartassociation.com/thread/186087/confirmed-genuine-cut-run-badge
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Congratulations to all of the other winners.
A MESSAGE FROM PAUL: I now know how Sharon Osbourne feels judging The X Factor. Over 400 swap’s entered, and the range of swap's wildly diverse. Pile's of plastic, body parts, dead fish, magic lesson’s and lots of sentimental objects, some swap's I’d say were boarder line child trafficking lol. Annoyingly, Simon Cowell and Mel B pulled out from the judging panel yesterday. So I was left with no choice but to embrace the power of a high-performance, military grade quantum supercomputer to run advanced data scaling calculations of every comprehensive digital swap received across all official cybernated ecosystem’s. Simulating multiple sizeable rendered files, and deploying a wealth of classical physics programs un-known to humankind. The vast supercollider’s conducting processor’s excited the self alternative AI nano transformative technology's to optimise and compress the complex swap megadata. It did struggled at first due to the degree of complexity’s, no computer has the working memory to handle all possible swap permutation's presented. Combining never before seen technique's, and integrating error mitigation hypothesis, molecular behavioural algorithm's began to weave new synthetic tunnels with faster multidimensional approaches to solving the reduced decision pattern in this accelerating problem to discover the final answer's. Circuits of chemical ions trapped within magnetic lithium fields, self developed multiple, tactical and cloud-based models which led to the analogue computing of the all important, and final automated list of winners. I've been advised, not to argue with the computer's final decision. Winning swaps in no particular order • Dottman crochets plush • Uri Gellers spoons • Pins Advent Meme Calendar 2023 • FBI Identikit • Derwent ltd pencil set • LSD is my problem child • OJ Simpson family photo • The Paul Insect, In sect Hotel** Thanks to everyone who took part. Your swaps were great! Your data has been stored and will be used at a later date. All the lucky winners shall be contacted. I've have decided to offer ten runner up prizes, it was that hard to choose. The problems I give myself. Due to the number of amazing swaps entered. The swaps listed below shall receive a special consolation prize for their swap submission. You will be contacted. • Carbon Prosthetic running leg - Thank you for your swap offer • 2hrs Free Child Care on the Dover to Calais Ferry crossing. - can you do 25 May 2026? • Magic Lessons with DNA Darren - sounds fun • 20ton restored tramway tram.- Would love to come and visit one day. • Grandparents used gravestone • 6m tall inflatable waving blue H - Really wanted this. • The human owl man - You were on and off the top list so many times. • Deflated pineapple pool - classy • Full size Egyptian sarcophagus - May be in Australia later this year so can test the fit, • Bottle of Sauternes 1971 - Perfect to finish this list off. Well done AA and PINS for such a great comp👌Congrats to all the worthy winners... except Owl Man aka Postal Pirate aka Kyle who's a dirty scammer and should receive nothing but a court summonsIf Paul In sect has the time and inclination to read the fo rum thread below, it may offer him some inspiration when deciding what special consolation prize would be most suited for dregs of society like the human owl man, Postal Pirate. urbanartassociation.com/thread/186087/confirmed-genuine-cut-run-badge__________ Congratulations to all of the other winners.
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New artists....., by met on Aug 31, 2023 15:41:07 GMT 1, The quoting of posts can at times be cumbersome, and repetitive.
But it does have the advantage of helping to safeguard the historical record. Especially when any of the members quoted later delete their posts — in a perception-management or revisionist effort to cover their tracks and purge the forum of inconvenient evidence.
The quoting of posts can at times be cumbersome, and repetitive.
But it does have the advantage of helping to safeguard the historical record. Especially when any of the members quoted later delete their posts — in a perception-management or revisionist effort to cover their tracks and purge the forum of inconvenient evidence.
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New artists....., by met on Aug 30, 2023 21:16:48 GMT 1, Hi there, any artists that require a platform to sell their art, and not at Gallery prices.... We have vast experience in buying and selling art in the arena best suited to you, not what galleries want. Get in touch for more information! Thank you for reading.
Hi, I know a couple of artists that need support, will DM you!
Imagine this: if you had £86,400 in your account…… And some one stole £10… Would you be upset and throw away £86,390 in hopes at getting at the person? Or just ignore and move on? You would move on, right? We all have 86,400 seconds each day, I am not going to let someone’s 10 seconds ruin my day! I don’t sweat the small stuff life is bigger than that! Currently I have had a lot of positive responses and helping one artist getting their art in the Saatchi. Thank you for all your comments and support. Whilst in Glasgow I had the pleasure in meeting so so many forum members and what was lovely, was the support face to face! Don’t be that person who is angry, support everyone, you just don’t know what they are going through. This world has enough hatred in it, but we have the chance to change the world! Many thanks for reading!
Thank you for the feedback.
We currently have a holding site, but will publish nearer the time.
Some additional third-party, disinterested feedback:
The dishonesty you exhibited above — with the knowingly misleading/deceitful reply to yourself under a different username — is a terrible way to start a business that is so heavily reliant upon client trust.
Hi there, any artists that require a platform to sell their art, and not at Gallery prices.... We have vast experience in buying and selling art in the arena best suited to you, not what galleries want. Get in touch for more information! Thank you for reading. Hi, I know a couple of artists that need support, will DM you! Imagine this: if you had £86,400 in your account…… And some one stole £10… Would you be upset and throw away £86,390 in hopes at getting at the person? Or just ignore and move on? You would move on, right? We all have 86,400 seconds each day, I am not going to let someone’s 10 seconds ruin my day! I don’t sweat the small stuff life is bigger than that! Currently I have had a lot of positive responses and helping one artist getting their art in the Saatchi. Thank you for all your comments and support. Whilst in Glasgow I had the pleasure in meeting so so many forum members and what was lovely, was the support face to face! Don’t be that person who is angry, support everyone, you just don’t know what they are going through. This world has enough hatred in it, but we have the chance to change the world! Many thanks for reading! Thank you for the feedback. We currently have a holding site, but will publish nearer the time. Some additional third-party, disinterested feedback:The dishonesty you exhibited above — with the knowingly misleading/deceitful reply to yourself under a different username — is a terrible way to start a business that is so heavily reliant upon client trust.
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Paul Insect - Super Glow SWAP SHOP - CLOSED, by met on Aug 30, 2023 18:42:51 GMT 1, I will offer my copy of LSD My Problem Child signed by Albert Hofmann, the chemist who was the first person to synthesize, ingest, and learn of the psychedelic effects of LSD and the first person to isolate and synthesize Psilocybin and Psilocin. A book on LSD translated by Jonathan OTT. Can't work out whether he's using a pseudonym, or if this is a case of nominative determinism. I couldn’t tell you whether it’s a pseudonym or not met but I can say he is a real person because I’ve met him lol
The title of your swap offer brought to mind a notable publication by Dr. Romulus Trilling.
I have an unsigned copy in my collection — and I'm unaware of the existence of any signed versions.
Given its value and for the avoidance of doubt, the photo below is for discussion purposes only. My Trilling book is neither for sale nor being offered as a swap.
I will offer my copy of LSD My Problem Child signed by Albert Hofmann, the chemist who was the first person to synthesize, ingest, and learn of the psychedelic effects of LSD and the first person to isolate and synthesize Psilocybin and Psilocin. A book on LSD translated by Jonathan OTT. Can't work out whether he's using a pseudonym, or if this is a case of nominative determinism. I couldn’t tell you whether it’s a pseudonym or not met but I can say he is a real person because I’ve met him lol The title of your swap offer brought to mind a notable publication by Dr. Romulus Trilling. I have an unsigned copy in my collection — and I'm unaware of the existence of any signed versions. Given its value and for the avoidance of doubt, the photo below is for discussion purposes only. My Trilling book is neither for sale nor being offered as a swap.
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New artists....., by met on Aug 30, 2023 16:49:18 GMT 1, Hi there, any artists that require a platform to sell their art, and not at Gallery prices.... We have vast experience in buying and selling art in the arena best suited to you, not what galleries want. Get in touch for more information! Thank you for reading.
The tone and substance of this opening post (including the lacunae of relevant information) makes me doubt your reference to having "vast experience" in buying and selling art.
If you'll pardon my candour, you come across as lacking in experience. And professionalism, along with common sense for that matter.
It doesn't feel like you really know what you're doing.
Hi there, any artists that require a platform to sell their art, and not at Gallery prices.... We have vast experience in buying and selling art in the arena best suited to you, not what galleries want. Get in touch for more information! Thank you for reading. The tone and substance of this opening post (including the lacunae of relevant information) makes me doubt your reference to having "vast experience" in buying and selling art. If you'll pardon my candour, you come across as lacking in experience. And professionalism, along with common sense for that matter. It doesn't feel like you really know what you're doing.
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Paul Insect - Super Glow SWAP SHOP - CLOSED, by met on Aug 28, 2023 23:41:01 GMT 1, I will offer my copy of LSD My Problem Child signed by Albert Hofmann, the chemist who was the first person to synthesize, ingest, and learn of the psychedelic effects of LSD and the first person to isolate and synthesize Psilocybin and Psilocin.
A book on LSD translated by Jonathan OTT.
Can't work out whether he's using a pseudonym, or if this is a case of nominative determinism.
I will offer my copy of LSD My Problem Child signed by Albert Hofmann, the chemist who was the first person to synthesize, ingest, and learn of the psychedelic effects of LSD and the first person to isolate and synthesize Psilocybin and Psilocin. A book on LSD translated by Jonathan OTT. Can't work out whether he's using a pseudonym, or if this is a case of nominative determinism.
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Banksy Show • Cut & Run • Glasgow , by met on Aug 26, 2023 22:13:21 GMT 1,
Hope it goes to Edinburgh
Followed by Aberdeen. And then Dundee.
Afterwards, curtain falls. Touring exhibition ends.
How to troll the world.
Hope it goes to Edinburgh Followed by Aberdeen. And then Dundee. Afterwards, curtain falls. Touring exhibition ends. How to troll the world.
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Mary Breach (Irish) Exhibited at the Royal Hibernian Academy, by met on Aug 18, 2023 22:34:42 GMT 1, Artist, Mary Breach (Irish) Title, An Goban Saor Exhibited at the Royal Hibernian Academy Annual Exhibition in 2000 Medium, Mixed media Frame size, 71 cm X 61 cm Rare to find one of her works £950
In life generally, I naturally flit between order and chaos.
Although more at ease with the former, it certainly lacks the sense of exhilaration I get from the latter.
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When it comes to art, a comparable notion of duality will manifest itself in my preferences:
I'm attracted to both clarity (of concept, artistic intent, meaning, etc.) and a sometimes-uncomfortable or disconcerting ambiguity.
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Personal relationships are a tad more complicated.
How much I care about what others think of me will vary between complete indifference and genuine concern.
It depends. Not only on the specific individuals, but also on the issues in question.
For example, if people, including family and friends, see me as aloof or mildly unpleasant, that isn't a problem.
However, I would be bothered if they felt my comments in discussion were unfair, or my views were poorly considered.
Similarly, there are certain character traits I very much wish to avoid being associated with (even by complete strangers, to whom I wouldn't otherwise pay attention).
These would include pettiness, dishonesty, and cowardice — all of which are contemptible in my opinion.
[One reason I find alternate/secondary accounts on this forum so repellent is that I liken the holders of those accounts with the above three traits.
Especially when used by those holders to buy/resell. Or to support their own posts or vested interests under a different username. Or to target other members under a different username.
The spinelessness and deceit of it all just makes me queasy, regardless of individual justification attempts.]
A separate trait I want zero association with is narcissism.
Now, my concern about the above artwork by Mary Breach is down to its uncanny resemblance. And therefore the potential for confusion. If I hung it at home, visitors could get an unfortunate false impression.
No, those visitors probably wouldn't say anything in my presence.
But they might easily and wrongly assume that, out of pure vanity or egotism, I had commissioned the artist to paint a portrait of me.
Artist, Mary Breach (Irish) Title, An Goban Saor Exhibited at the Royal Hibernian Academy Annual Exhibition in 2000 Medium, Mixed media Frame size, 71 cm X 61 cm Rare to find one of her works £950 In life generally, I naturally flit between order and chaos. Although more at ease with the former, it certainly lacks the sense of exhilaration I get from the latter. __________ When it comes to art, a comparable notion of duality will manifest itself in my preferences: I'm attracted to both clarity (of concept, artistic intent, meaning, etc.) and a sometimes-uncomfortable or disconcerting ambiguity. __________ Personal relationships are a tad more complicated. How much I care about what others think of me will vary between complete indifference and genuine concern. It depends. Not only on the specific individuals, but also on the issues in question. For example, if people, including family and friends, see me as aloof or mildly unpleasant, that isn't a problem. However, I would be bothered if they felt my comments in discussion were unfair, or my views were poorly considered. Similarly, there are certain character traits I very much wish to avoid being associated with (even by complete strangers, to whom I wouldn't otherwise pay attention). These would include pettiness, dishonesty, and cowardice — all of which are contemptible in my opinion. [One reason I find alternate/secondary accounts on this forum so repellent is that I liken the holders of those accounts with the above three traits.
Especially when used by those holders to buy/resell. Or to support their own posts or vested interests under a different username. Or to target other members under a different username.
The spinelessness and deceit of it all just makes me queasy, regardless of individual justification attempts.]A separate trait I want zero association with is narcissism. Now, my concern about the above artwork by Mary Breach is down to its uncanny resemblance. And therefore the potential for confusion. If I hung it at home, visitors could get an unfortunate false impression. No, those visitors probably wouldn't say anything in my presence. But they might easily and wrongly assume that, out of pure vanity or egotism, I had commissioned the artist to paint a portrait of me.
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Brussels visit - 22-25 Aug., by met on Aug 18, 2023 16:55:44 GMT 1, Hi! Not the best time of the year to visit a city (arty-speaking). Not interested by Jean Jullien at MIMA. Alice Gallery is closed (as most galleries) Anything nice I can see there... I have seen there is a Spilliaert exhibition at Royal Museum, so will def. go there combined with the permanent. Cheers
1. The Royal Museums of Fine Arts of Belgium have an impressive collection.
As you've already alluded to, a €10 adult ticket will grant you access to the Léon Spilliaert: The early years exhibition, but also to the entirety of both the Fin‑de‑Siècle Museum* and Oldmasters Museum*.
They are housed at the same address, 3 rue de la Régence.
My own focus would be on the permanent collection of the Oldmasters Museum. Even as an art enthusiast, I am sometimes lazy, and therefore need to push myself to explore beyond my comfort zone of works from the late‑19th century to present day.
2. The Magritte Museum*, next door at 1 Place Royale is a must‑see as well.
€10 for an adult ticket.
Or, if you have no fear of art fatigue, a €15 same‑day combination ticket offers entry to all three of the above museums.
Make sure to visit the Magritte Museum gift shop. And if you might be tempted by the purchase of posters, bring with you a wide‑diameter tube (12cm+) to minimise the risk of rolling‑crease damage in transit.
3. Also next door is the quaint yet rather fascinating Musical Instruments Museum* at 2 Montagne de la Cour.
€15 for an adult ticket.
4. If you like your chocolate shops to resemble high‑end jewellers, Pierre Marcolini at 1 rue des Minimes is but a five‑minute stroll away.
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Sadly, my local (and favourite) watering hole when I last resided in Brussels, Monk at Place Sainte‑Catherine, recently closed. Its lease wasn't renewed due to planned renovation work by the building owners*.
In case you're as fond of James Ensor as I am, you'll have to either:
(a) make a quick train journey to Antwerp for the collection at KMSKA*; or
(b) return to Brussels next year for James Ensor. Maestro* at the BOZAR - Centre for Fine Arts.
Opening next month in September is Francis Alÿs: The Nature of the Game* at WIELS in Brussels.
That is a show I am keen to attend.
To anyone unfamiliar with the artist, if you appreciate the sensibilities of Martin Creed and Brad Downey, you'll enjoy Francis Alÿs.
Separately, the WIELS building is a former brewery and a great arts venue. I've been to notable exhibitions there, including for Tauba Auerbach and Felix Gonzalez-Torres.
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Have a fun trip.
Hi! Not the best time of the year to visit a city (arty-speaking). Not interested by Jean Jullien at MIMA. Alice Gallery is closed (as most galleries) Anything nice I can see there... I have seen there is a Spilliaert exhibition at Royal Museum, so will def. go there combined with the permanent. Cheers 1. The Royal Museums of Fine Arts of Belgium have an impressive collection. As you've already alluded to, a €10 adult ticket will grant you access to the Léon Spilliaert: The early years exhibition, but also to the entirety of both the Fin‑de‑Siècle Museum* and Oldmasters Museum*. They are housed at the same address, 3 rue de la Régence. My own focus would be on the permanent collection of the Oldmasters Museum. Even as an art enthusiast, I am sometimes lazy, and therefore need to push myself to explore beyond my comfort zone of works from the late‑19th century to present day. 2. The Magritte Museum*, next door at 1 Place Royale is a must‑see as well. €10 for an adult ticket. Or, if you have no fear of art fatigue, a €15 same‑day combination ticket offers entry to all three of the above museums. Make sure to visit the Magritte Museum gift shop. And if you might be tempted by the purchase of posters, bring with you a wide‑diameter tube (12cm+) to minimise the risk of rolling‑crease damage in transit. 3. Also next door is the quaint yet rather fascinating Musical Instruments Museum* at 2 Montagne de la Cour. €15 for an adult ticket. 4. If you like your chocolate shops to resemble high‑end jewellers, Pierre Marcolini at 1 rue des Minimes is but a five‑minute stroll away. __________ Sadly, my local (and favourite) watering hole when I last resided in Brussels, Monk at Place Sainte‑Catherine, recently closed. Its lease wasn't renewed due to planned renovation work by the building owners *. In case you're as fond of James Ensor as I am, you'll have to either: (a) make a quick train journey to Antwerp for the collection at KMSKA*; or (b) return to Brussels next year for James Ensor. Maestro* at the BOZAR - Centre for Fine Arts. Opening next month in September is Francis Alÿs: The Nature of the Game* at WIELS in Brussels. That is a show I am keen to attend. To anyone unfamiliar with the artist, if you appreciate the sensibilities of Martin Creed and Brad Downey, you'll enjoy Francis Alÿs. Separately, the WIELS building is a former brewery and a great arts venue. I've been to notable exhibitions there, including for Tauba Auerbach and Felix Gonzalez-Torres. __________ Have a fun trip.
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Mason Storm 🇬🇧 New Print Release • Who is Mason Storm?, by met on Aug 17, 2023 21:37:06 GMT 1, Wow! Indeed, the grasping nature of Mason Storm and Stowe Gallery, along with the level of deceit they're willing to stoop to, are truly to behold. It isn't just a one‑off cash grab either. These are recidivist con men, who regularly carry out this kind of deliberate, misleading nonsense. It's been going on for years. And that in itself is noteworthy, i.e. the actual duration of their shenanigans. Because pulling off such feats, repeatedly, over an extended period of time, requires that they show contempt towards their own collectors — to a degree that could be described as exceptional. There’s something in me that believes him, and something in me that says utter rubbish. I suppose it’s worth a punt 🤷🏻♂️ This does raise a further point of interest: Responsibility will of course be shared. But which of the parties below are really the most pathetic and most at fault?A. The integrity‑free impostor artist and his colluding gallery, who are relieving dupes of substantial sums of cash in exchange for snake oil. B. The actual dupes, being the easily‑led collectors who have allowed themselves to fall into a costly tailspin of wishful thinking and self‑delusion. C. The dickheads like Timmysup that come here to promote the tripe
Although no more than a finely-tuned hunch, given their prior form over the years, I suspect your option C is already covered by my option A.
Wow! Indeed, the grasping nature of Mason Storm and Stowe Gallery, along with the level of deceit they're willing to stoop to, are truly to behold. It isn't just a one‑off cash grab either. These are recidivist con men, who regularly carry out this kind of deliberate, misleading nonsense. It's been going on for years. And that in itself is noteworthy, i.e. the actual duration of their shenanigans. Because pulling off such feats, repeatedly, over an extended period of time, requires that they show contempt towards their own collectors — to a degree that could be described as exceptional. There’s something in me that believes him, and something in me that says utter rubbish. I suppose it’s worth a punt 🤷🏻♂️ This does raise a further point of interest: Responsibility will of course be shared. But which of the parties below are really the most pathetic and most at fault?A. The integrity‑free impostor artist and his colluding gallery, who are relieving dupes of substantial sums of cash in exchange for snake oil. B. The actual dupes, being the easily‑led collectors who have allowed themselves to fall into a costly tailspin of wishful thinking and self‑delusion. C. The dickheads like Timmysup that come here to promote the tripe Although no more than a finely-tuned hunch, given their prior form over the years, I suspect your option C is already covered by my option A.
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Mason Storm 🇬🇧 New Print Release • Who is Mason Storm?, by met on Aug 17, 2023 21:10:53 GMT 1, Wow!
Indeed, the grasping nature of Mason Storm and Stowe Gallery, along with the level of deceit they're willing to stoop to, are truly to behold.
It isn't just a one‑off cash grab either.
These are recidivist con men, who regularly carry out this kind of deliberate, misleading nonsense. It's been going on for years.
And that in itself is noteworthy, i.e. the actual duration of their shenanigans.
Because pulling off such feats, repeatedly, over an extended period of time, requires that they show contempt towards their own collectors — to a degree that could be described as exceptional.
There’s something in me that believes him, and something in me that says utter rubbish. I suppose it’s worth a punt 🤷🏻♂️
This does raise a further point of interest:
Responsibility will of course be shared.
But which of the parties below are really the most pathetic and most at fault?
A. The integrity‑free impostor artist and his colluding gallery, who are relieving dupes of substantial sums of cash in exchange for snake oil.
B. The actual dupes, being the easily‑led collectors who have allowed themselves to fall into a costly tailspin of wishful thinking and self‑delusion.
Wow! Indeed, the grasping nature of Mason Storm and Stowe Gallery, along with the level of deceit they're willing to stoop to, are truly to behold. It isn't just a one‑off cash grab either. These are recidivist con men, who regularly carry out this kind of deliberate, misleading nonsense. It's been going on for years. And that in itself is noteworthy, i.e. the actual duration of their shenanigans. Because pulling off such feats, repeatedly, over an extended period of time, requires that they show contempt towards their own collectors — to a degree that could be described as exceptional. There’s something in me that believes him, and something in me that says utter rubbish. I suppose it’s worth a punt 🤷🏻♂️ This does raise a further point of interest: Responsibility will of course be shared. But which of the parties below are really the most pathetic and most at fault?A. The integrity‑free impostor artist and his colluding gallery, who are relieving dupes of substantial sums of cash in exchange for snake oil. B. The actual dupes, being the easily‑led collectors who have allowed themselves to fall into a costly tailspin of wishful thinking and self‑delusion.
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