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The Jungle in Calais, by Fะฏ on Sept 7, 2016 20:40:52 GMT 1,
Yeah this is all fine. But they are there because they want to get to the UK.
They are already in a safer country than before, it is their choice to be there.
im up for people coming to the UK from all over, but do it legally like everyone else.
just because you 'want' to go somewhere does not mean you have the right to.
i want to be the king, so ill go camp outside buckingham palace until someone lets me
thats all.
Yeah this is all fine. But they are there because they want to get to the UK. They are already in a safer country than before, it is their choice to be there. im up for people coming to the UK from all over, but do it legally like everyone else. just because you 'want' to go somewhere does not mean you have the right to. i want to be the king, so ill go camp outside buckingham palace until someone lets me thats all. |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 20:43:19 GMT 1, Yeah this is all fine. But they are there because they want to get to the UK. They are already in a safer country than before, it is their choice to be there. im up for people coming to the UK from all over, but do it legally like everyone else. just because you 'want' to go somewhere does not mean you have the right to. i want to be the king, so ill go camp outside buckingham palace until someone lets me thats all.
Seriously?
Yeah this is all fine. But they are there because they want to get to the UK. They are already in a safer country than before, it is their choice to be there. im up for people coming to the UK from all over, but do it legally like everyone else. just because you 'want' to go somewhere does not mean you have the right to. i want to be the king, so ill go camp outside buckingham palace until someone lets me thats all. Dude!!.... i mean.....i.....i....wait..... what?!...... Seriously? |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Fะฏ on Sept 7, 2016 20:46:38 GMT 1, Yeah this is all fine. But they are there because they want to get to the UK. They are already in a safer country than before, it is their choice to be there. im up for people coming to the UK from all over, but do it legally like everyone else. just because you 'want' to go somewhere does not mean you have the right to. i want to be the king, so ill go camp outside buckingham palace until someone lets me thats all. Dude.... i mean.....i.....i....wait..... what?!...... Seriously?
What are they in calais for then? Explain. They are already in a better country.
sorry if that sounds harsh, but ff sake look at it logically.
why not go chill out in the other european countries, they can take their pick as they are already there.
Yeah this is all fine. But they are there because they want to get to the UK. They are already in a safer country than before, it is their choice to be there. im up for people coming to the UK from all over, but do it legally like everyone else. just because you 'want' to go somewhere does not mean you have the right to. i want to be the king, so ill go camp outside buckingham palace until someone lets me thats all. Dude.... i mean.....i.....i....wait..... what?!...... Seriously? What are they in calais for then? Explain. They are already in a better country. sorry if that sounds harsh, but ff sake look at it logically. why not go chill out in the other european countries, they can take their pick as they are already there. |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 20:48:33 GMT 1, Dude.... i mean.....i.....i....wait..... what?!...... Seriously? What are they in calais for then? Explain. They are already in a better country. sorry if that sounds harsh, but ff sake look at it logically.
Each their own, but that comment is just .... Nah. I'll leave it at that.
Dude.... i mean.....i.....i....wait..... what?!...... Seriously? What are they in calais for then? Explain. They are already in a better country. sorry if that sounds harsh, but ff sake look at it logically. Nah mate, i mean.... I can't / don't even want to respond to this. I know you like to stir things up a bit. But.... Each their own, but that comment is just .... Nah. I'll leave it at that. |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Fะฏ on Sept 7, 2016 20:50:49 GMT 1, What are they in calais for then? Explain. They are already in a better country. sorry if that sounds harsh, but ff sake look at it logically. Nah mate, i mean.... I can't / don't even want to respond to this. I know you like to stir things up a bit. But.... Each their own, but that comment is just .... Nah. I'll leave it at that.
They cannot go home, which is terrible. I agree they have the right to be safe. But why the need to cross that bit of water. You start again where you can or are allowed.
What are they in calais for then? Explain. They are already in a better country. sorry if that sounds harsh, but ff sake look at it logically. Nah mate, i mean.... I can't / don't even want to respond to this. I know you like to stir things up a bit. But.... Each their own, but that comment is just .... Nah. I'll leave it at that. Im up for reasoning and accepting, just ive never seen why its in calais. If its not to jump on a ferry what else is it? Its being made safe for them at great expense with new shelters etc with the ones they clear away. Its not ideal accomodation i know, but its brilliant if you have nothing. But still theres trouble. Makes you wonder. They cannot go home, which is terrible. I agree they have the right to be safe. But why the need to cross that bit of water. You start again where you can or are allowed. |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Coach on Sept 7, 2016 20:55:05 GMT 1, Yeah this is all fine. But they are there because they want to get to the UK. They are already in a safer country than before, it is their choice to be there. im up for people coming to the UK from all over, but do it legally like everyone else. just because you 'want' to go somewhere does not mean you have the right to. i want to be the king, so ill go camp outside buckingham palace until someone lets me thats all.
What about the many unaccompanied children?
What about all the people there with family already here?
What about a desire to be in this European country rather than another European country?
What about the fact that this country has accepted asylum applications from a fraction of the number of people than some other European countries?
According to your logic all migrants should have remained in Greece and Italy. How would that work?
Moreover
What about a little humanity?
Yeah this is all fine. But they are there because they want to get to the UK. They are already in a safer country than before, it is their choice to be there. im up for people coming to the UK from all over, but do it legally like everyone else. just because you 'want' to go somewhere does not mean you have the right to. i want to be the king, so ill go camp outside buckingham palace until someone lets me thats all. What about the many unaccompanied children? What about all the people there with family already here? What about a desire to be in this European country rather than another European country? What about the fact that this country has accepted asylum applications from a fraction of the number of people than some other European countries? According to your logic all migrants should have remained in Greece and Italy. How would that work? Moreover What about a little humanity? |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Fะฏ on Sept 7, 2016 20:58:21 GMT 1, Yeah this is all fine. But they are there because they want to get to the UK. They are already in a safer country than before, it is their choice to be there. im up for people coming to the UK from all over, but do it legally like everyone else. just because you 'want' to go somewhere does not mean you have the right to. i want to be the king, so ill go camp outside buckingham palace until someone lets me thats all. What about the many unaccompanied children? What about all the people there with family already here? What about a desire to be in this European country rather than another European country? What about the fact that this country has accepted asylum applications from a fraction of the number of people than some other European countries? According to your logic all migrants should have remained in Greece and Italy. How would that work? Moreover What about a little humanity?
I just want to know why they are hanging about calais. The rest im with you.
also coach, im just throwing this in as well (not saying you did this by the way).
anyone who voted to leave europe has no right to chirp up on this issue. I voted in by the way.
sharing borders is the way foward. But legally.
Yeah this is all fine. But they are there because they want to get to the UK. They are already in a safer country than before, it is their choice to be there. im up for people coming to the UK from all over, but do it legally like everyone else. just because you 'want' to go somewhere does not mean you have the right to. i want to be the king, so ill go camp outside buckingham palace until someone lets me thats all. What about the many unaccompanied children? What about all the people there with family already here? What about a desire to be in this European country rather than another European country? What about the fact that this country has accepted asylum applications from a fraction of the number of people than some other European countries? According to your logic all migrants should have remained in Greece and Italy. How would that work? Moreover What about a little humanity? I just want to know why they are hanging about calais. The rest im with you. also coach, im just throwing this in as well (not saying you did this by the way). anyone who voted to leave europe has no right to chirp up on this issue. I voted in by the way. sharing borders is the way foward. But legally. |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Coach on Sept 7, 2016 21:03:15 GMT 1, What about the many unaccompanied children? What about all the people there with family already here? What about a desire to be in this European country rather than another European country? What about the fact that this country has accepted asylum applications from a fraction of the number of people than some other European countries? According to your logic all migrants should have remained in Greece and Italy. How would that work? Moreover What about a little humanity? I just want to know why they are hanging about calais. The rest im with you. also coach, im just throwing this in as well (not saying you did this by the way). anyone who voted to leave europe has no right to chirp up on this issue. I voted in by the way. sharing borders is the way foward. But legally.
To try to get in to this country. They can't claim asylum here from France. They need to be in this country to claim asylum.
These are people. Many of whom's lives have been dessimated by war.
What about the many unaccompanied children? What about all the people there with family already here? What about a desire to be in this European country rather than another European country? What about the fact that this country has accepted asylum applications from a fraction of the number of people than some other European countries? According to your logic all migrants should have remained in Greece and Italy. How would that work? Moreover What about a little humanity? I just want to know why they are hanging about calais. The rest im with you. also coach, im just throwing this in as well (not saying you did this by the way). anyone who voted to leave europe has no right to chirp up on this issue. I voted in by the way. sharing borders is the way foward. But legally. To try to get in to this country. They can't claim asylum here from France. They need to be in this country to claim asylum. These are people. Many of whom's lives have been dessimated by war. |
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The Jungle in Calais, by laurentbaboo on Sept 7, 2016 21:04:53 GMT 1, Maybe because it is the last stop/door before the UK?
Maybe because it is the last stop/door before the UK?
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The Jungle in Calais, by Fะฏ on Sept 7, 2016 21:04:53 GMT 1, I just want to know why they are hanging about calais. The rest im with you. also coach, im just throwing this in as well (not saying you did this by the way). anyone who voted to leave europe has no right to chirp up on this issue. I voted in by the way. sharing borders is the way foward. But legally. To try to get in to this country. They can't claim asylum here from France. They need to be in this country to claim asylum. These are people. Many of whom's lives have been dessimated by war.
Why not claim asylum in france, to stay in... France.
cannot be that bad compared to where they have come from
I just want to know why they are hanging about calais. The rest im with you. also coach, im just throwing this in as well (not saying you did this by the way). anyone who voted to leave europe has no right to chirp up on this issue. I voted in by the way. sharing borders is the way foward. But legally. To try to get in to this country. They can't claim asylum here from France. They need to be in this country to claim asylum. These are people. Many of whom's lives have been dessimated by war. Why not claim asylum in france, to stay in... France. cannot be that bad compared to where they have come from |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Coach on Sept 7, 2016 21:05:24 GMT 1, I have replied to the above but the thread is being edited
I have replied to the above but the thread is being edited
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The Jungle in Calais, by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 21:07:05 GMT 1, Thanks for moving, this is a much better place. I did not know it would emerge into a discussion on it's own.
Thanks for moving, this is a much better place. I did not know it would emerge into a discussion on it's own.
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The Jungle in Calais, by Coach on Sept 7, 2016 21:09:41 GMT 1, To try to get in to this country. They can't claim asylum here from France. They need to be in this country to claim asylum. These are people. Many of whom's lives have been dessimated by war. Why not claim asylum in france, to stay in... France. cannot be that bad compared to where they have come from
For the reasons I stated in my first reply to you
To try to get in to this country. They can't claim asylum here from France. They need to be in this country to claim asylum. These are people. Many of whom's lives have been dessimated by war. Why not claim asylum in france, to stay in... France. cannot be that bad compared to where they have come from For the reasons I stated in my first reply to you |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Daniel Silk on Sept 7, 2016 21:10:36 GMT 1, I think it's embarrassing to other countries in Europe that so many walk straight through, and only want to go to the UK.
I think it's embarrassing to other countries in Europe that so many walk straight through, and only want to go to the UK.
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The Jungle in Calais, by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 21:10:43 GMT 1, And to add. It's fine if you have 'issues' and questions. But let us all agree on one thing; These people are in need of immediate help. Would it be possible to all get the word out to as much people as possible to get some funds and help to the ones who need it the most first?
And to add. It's fine if you have 'issues' and questions. But let us all agree on one thing; These people are in need of immediate help. Would it be possible to all get the word out to as much people as possible to get some funds and help to the ones who need it the most first?
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The Jungle in Calais, by Fะฏ on Sept 7, 2016 21:12:27 GMT 1, Why not claim asylum in france, to stay in... France. cannot be that bad compared to where they have come from For the reasons I stated in my first reply to you
all those people who spend thousands of pounds on visa's to come here legally and then have to renew again for another few thousand punds every couple of years - for up to 10 years. Im sure they would agree with you.
Why not claim asylum in france, to stay in... France. cannot be that bad compared to where they have come from For the reasons I stated in my first reply to you But they have no right to any of that stuff, just like we all dont have rights for certain things in life. all those people who spend thousands of pounds on visa's to come here legally and then have to renew again for another few thousand punds every couple of years - for up to 10 years. Im sure they would agree with you. |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Daniel Silk on Sept 7, 2016 21:16:24 GMT 1, Whatever country in the World is having problems, the neighbouring countries should be used as temporary places for those people, with full funding and supports worldwide through the UN. And then, if all goes well those families can eventually be moved back to their home towns in their own country after the conflict or problems have been solved.
Allowing these people to just flow across continents to pick and choose where they want to go, sets a precedent and just can't work into the future.
Whatever country in the World is having problems, the neighbouring countries should be used as temporary places for those people, with full funding and supports worldwide through the UN. And then, if all goes well those families can eventually be moved back to their home towns in their own country after the conflict or problems have been solved.
Allowing these people to just flow across continents to pick and choose where they want to go, sets a precedent and just can't work into the future.
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The Jungle in Calais, by Fะฏ on Sept 7, 2016 21:16:40 GMT 1, And to add. It's fine if you have 'issues' and questions. But let us all agree on one thing; These people are in need immediate help. Would it be possible to all get the word out to as much people as possible to get some funds and help to the ones who need it the most first?
They need help, but also education about the reality.
we are all going to agree to disagree here, but it depends on your angle.
sometimes i feel that charities can make things worse by making it more comfortable.
they need to be educating and helping these people with asylum applications. Then maybe in the future apply to come to the UK once they have a foundation.
Im sure many are skilled, ive seen many news articles about teachers etc living in those camps.
if they are skilled, then they are not stupid to think things come that easy.
And to add. It's fine if you have 'issues' and questions. But let us all agree on one thing; These people are in need immediate help. Would it be possible to all get the word out to as much people as possible to get some funds and help to the ones who need it the most first? They need help, but also education about the reality. we are all going to agree to disagree here, but it depends on your angle. sometimes i feel that charities can make things worse by making it more comfortable. they need to be educating and helping these people with asylum applications. Then maybe in the future apply to come to the UK once they have a foundation. Im sure many are skilled, ive seen many news articles about teachers etc living in those camps. if they are skilled, then they are not stupid to think things come that easy. |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 21:20:22 GMT 1, And to add. It's fine if you have 'issues' and questions. But let us all agree on one thing; These people are in need immediate help. Would it be possible to all get the word out to as much people as possible to get some funds and help to the ones who need it the most first? They need help, but also education about the reality. we are all going to agree to disagree here, but it depends on your angle. sometimes i feel that charities can make things worse by making it more comfortable. they need to be educating and helping these people with asylum applications. Then maybe in the future apply to come to the UK once they have a foundation. Im sure many are skilled, ive seen many news articles about teachers etc living in those camps. if they are skilled, then they are not stupid to think things come that easy.
I do feel for the people who have absolutely nothing left. Lost family and friends. Children parentless.... alone and scared for what is to come. People dying of decease and lack of nutrition.... All not far from where we all live...
The humane thing to do is HELP!
And to add. It's fine if you have 'issues' and questions. But let us all agree on one thing; These people are in need immediate help. Would it be possible to all get the word out to as much people as possible to get some funds and help to the ones who need it the most first? They need help, but also education about the reality. we are all going to agree to disagree here, but it depends on your angle. sometimes i feel that charities can make things worse by making it more comfortable. they need to be educating and helping these people with asylum applications. Then maybe in the future apply to come to the UK once they have a foundation. Im sure many are skilled, ive seen many news articles about teachers etc living in those camps. if they are skilled, then they are not stupid to think things come that easy. J.... I mean... i'm not here to convince you of anything. I don't have all the answers... but.... I do feel for the people who have absolutely nothing left. Lost family and friends. Children parentless.... alone and scared for what is to come. People dying of decease and lack of nutrition.... All not far from where we all live... The humane thing to do is HELP! |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Fะฏ on Sept 7, 2016 21:21:23 GMT 1, Whatever country in the World is having problems, the neighbouring countries should be used as temporary places for those people, with full funding and supports worldwide through the UN. And then, if all goes well those families can eventually be moved back to their home towns in their own country after the conflict or problems have been solved. Allowing these people to just flow across continents to pick and choose where they want to go, sets a precedent and just can't work into the future.
I read an article recently about a theory on how to combat this problem.
It was to accept the male migrants (of which many are young and fit males) on the basis that they go straight into army training. They live in the country for a certain period and are eductated and trained. Then they can go back to their country to fight properly and get rid of the problem. Instead of countries spending money sending troops over, the money is spent training them instead and taking control of their homes.
I thought that theory was a good one, no?
Washing the problem away with handouts wont help anyone.
Whatever country in the World is having problems, the neighbouring countries should be used as temporary places for those people, with full funding and supports worldwide through the UN. And then, if all goes well those families can eventually be moved back to their home towns in their own country after the conflict or problems have been solved. Allowing these people to just flow across continents to pick and choose where they want to go, sets a precedent and just can't work into the future. I read an article recently about a theory on how to combat this problem. It was to accept the male migrants (of which many are young and fit males) on the basis that they go straight into army training. They live in the country for a certain period and are eductated and trained. Then they can go back to their country to fight properly and get rid of the problem. Instead of countries spending money sending troops over, the money is spent training them instead and taking control of their homes. I thought that theory was a good one, no? Washing the problem away with handouts wont help anyone. |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Daniel Silk on Sept 7, 2016 21:21:24 GMT 1, And to add. It's fine if you have 'issues' and questions. But let us all agree on one thing; These people are in need of immediate help. Would it be possible to all get the word out to as much people as possible to get some funds and help to the ones who need it the most first?
And to add. It's fine if you have 'issues' and questions. But let us all agree on one thing; These people are in need of immediate help. Would it be possible to all get the word out to as much people as possible to get some funds and help to the ones who need it the most first? For sure! They should be getting much more help and the situation should be much better organised. I think that was something that added to the Brexit vote as people in the UK could see the chaos in Calais, Italy, Greece and across Europe, with no clear plan on how to keep these people safe and protected from exploitation. |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Fะฏ on Sept 7, 2016 21:23:30 GMT 1, They need help, but also education about the reality. we are all going to agree to disagree here, but it depends on your angle. sometimes i feel that charities can make things worse by making it more comfortable. they need to be educating and helping these people with asylum applications. Then maybe in the future apply to come to the UK once they have a foundation. Im sure many are skilled, ive seen many news articles about teachers etc living in those camps. if they are skilled, then they are not stupid to think things come that easy. J.... I mean... i'm not here to convince you of anything. I don't have all the answers... but.... I do feel for the people who have absolutely nothing left. Lost family and friends. Children parentless.... alone and scared for what is to come. People dying of decease and lack of nutrition.... All not far from where we all live... The humane thing to do is HELP!
I agree, but help in the right way. Educate and help them to overcome.
thats the last ill say about it as everyone will have an opinion. No one is wrong in this, i agree with everything apart from the need to get to the UK illegally.
No one should go hungry though, sorry to say thats the fault of the french. It does not cost much to supply basic food in a country that has champagne coming out of its arse
They need help, but also education about the reality. we are all going to agree to disagree here, but it depends on your angle. sometimes i feel that charities can make things worse by making it more comfortable. they need to be educating and helping these people with asylum applications. Then maybe in the future apply to come to the UK once they have a foundation. Im sure many are skilled, ive seen many news articles about teachers etc living in those camps. if they are skilled, then they are not stupid to think things come that easy. J.... I mean... i'm not here to convince you of anything. I don't have all the answers... but.... I do feel for the people who have absolutely nothing left. Lost family and friends. Children parentless.... alone and scared for what is to come. People dying of decease and lack of nutrition.... All not far from where we all live... The humane thing to do is HELP! I agree, but help in the right way. Educate and help them to overcome. thats the last ill say about it as everyone will have an opinion. No one is wrong in this, i agree with everything apart from the need to get to the UK illegally. No one should go hungry though, sorry to say thats the fault of the french. It does not cost much to supply basic food in a country that has champagne coming out of its arse |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Daniel Silk on Sept 7, 2016 21:26:27 GMT 1, Whatever country in the World is having problems, the neighbouring countries should be used as temporary places for those people, with full funding and supports worldwide through the UN. And then, if all goes well those families can eventually be moved back to their home towns in their own country after the conflict or problems have been solved. Allowing these people to just flow across continents to pick and choose where they want to go, sets a precedent and just can't work into the future. I read an article recently about a theory on how to combat this problem. It was to accept the male migrants (of which many are young and fit males) on the basis that they go straight into army training. They live in the country for a certain period and are eductated and trained. Then they can go back to their country to fight properly and get rid of the problem. Instead of countries spending money sending troops over, the money is spent training them instead and taking control of their homes. I thought that theory was a good one, no? Washing the problem away with handouts wont help anyone.
Whatever country in the World is having problems, the neighbouring countries should be used as temporary places for those people, with full funding and supports worldwide through the UN. And then, if all goes well those families can eventually be moved back to their home towns in their own country after the conflict or problems have been solved. Allowing these people to just flow across continents to pick and choose where they want to go, sets a precedent and just can't work into the future. I read an article recently about a theory on how to combat this problem. It was to accept the male migrants (of which many are young and fit males) on the basis that they go straight into army training. They live in the country for a certain period and are eductated and trained. Then they can go back to their country to fight properly and get rid of the problem. Instead of countries spending money sending troops over, the money is spent training them instead and taking control of their homes. I thought that theory was a good one, no? Washing the problem away with handouts wont help anyone. I agree, the males should be given the option of army training so they can fight to protect their homes and their own country. Otherwise it's just encourages a vacuum in the countries for groups like ISIS to exploit. |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Coach on Sept 7, 2016 21:40:38 GMT 1, Whatever country in the World is having problems, the neighbouring countries should be used as temporary places for those people, with full funding and supports worldwide through the UN. And then, if all goes well those families can eventually be moved back to their home towns in their own country after the conflict or problems have been solved. Allowing these people to just flow across continents to pick and choose where they want to go, sets a precedent and just can't work into the future.
Fortunately much of the world disagrees with you. Hence our legal obligations to grant asylum.
Whatever country in the World is having problems, the neighbouring countries should be used as temporary places for those people, with full funding and supports worldwide through the UN. And then, if all goes well those families can eventually be moved back to their home towns in their own country after the conflict or problems have been solved. Allowing these people to just flow across continents to pick and choose where they want to go, sets a precedent and just can't work into the future. Fortunately much of the world disagrees with you. Hence our legal obligations to grant asylum. |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Coach on Sept 7, 2016 21:41:25 GMT 1, I think it's embarrassing to other countries in Europe that so many walk straight through, and only want to go to the UK.
That's just not true. Compare how many migrants have settled in Germany to how many live here.
I think it's embarrassing to other countries in Europe that so many walk straight through, and only want to go to the UK. That's just not true. Compare how many migrants have settled in Germany to how many live here. |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Coach on Sept 7, 2016 21:42:27 GMT 1, Whatever country in the World is having problems, the neighbouring countries should be used as temporary places for those people, with full funding and supports worldwide through the UN. And then, if all goes well those families can eventually be moved back to their home towns in their own country after the conflict or problems have been solved. Allowing these people to just flow across continents to pick and choose where they want to go, sets a precedent and just can't work into the future. I read an article recently about a theory on how to combat this problem. It was to accept the male migrants (of which many are young and fit males) on the basis that they go straight into army training. They live in the country for a certain period and are eductated and trained. Then they can go back to their country to fight properly and get rid of the problem. Instead of countries spending money sending troops over, the money is spent training them instead and taking control of their homes. I thought that theory was a good one, no? Washing the problem away with handouts wont help anyone.ย
So now we are proposing enforced entry to the army. Jesus!
Whatever country in the World is having problems, the neighbouring countries should be used as temporary places for those people, with full funding and supports worldwide through the UN. And then, if all goes well those families can eventually be moved back to their home towns in their own country after the conflict or problems have been solved. Allowing these people to just flow across continents to pick and choose where they want to go, sets a precedent and just can't work into the future. I read an article recently about a theory on how to combat this problem. It was to accept the male migrants (of which many are young and fit males) on the basis that they go straight into army training. They live in the country for a certain period and are eductated and trained. Then they can go back to their country to fight properly and get rid of the problem. Instead of countries spending money sending troops over, the money is spent training them instead and taking control of their homes. I thought that theory was a good one, no? Washing the problem away with handouts wont help anyone.ย So now we are proposing enforced entry to the army. Jesus! |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Daniel Silk on Sept 7, 2016 21:42:47 GMT 1, Whatever country in the World is having problems, the neighbouring countries should be used as temporary places for those people, with full funding and supports worldwide through the UN. And then, if all goes well those families can eventually be moved back to their home towns in their own country after the conflict or problems have been solved. Allowing these people to just flow across continents to pick and choose where they want to go, sets a precedent and just can't work into the future. Fortunately much of the world disagrees with you. Hence our legal obligations to grant asylum.
Whatever country in the World is having problems, the neighbouring countries should be used as temporary places for those people, with full funding and supports worldwide through the UN. And then, if all goes well those families can eventually be moved back to their home towns in their own country after the conflict or problems have been solved. Allowing these people to just flow across continents to pick and choose where they want to go, sets a precedent and just can't work into the future. Fortunately much of the world disagrees with you. Hence our legal obligations to grant asylum. Do you think most of those people don't ever want to return home? And if so, why? |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Daniel Silk on Sept 7, 2016 21:45:19 GMT 1, I think it's embarrassing to other countries in Europe that so many walk straight through, and only want to go to the UK. That's just not true. Compare how many migrants have settled in Germany to how many live here.
I think it's embarrassing to other countries in Europe that so many walk straight through, and only want to go to the UK. That's just not true. Compare how many migrants have settled in Germany to how many live here. If we had a land boarder with Europe I think we would easily now have more settled in the UK than any other country in Europe. They just see Germany as the next best option. |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 21:46:28 GMT 1, All I see in even the most left winged media are 95% young adult males throwing rocks at trucks, being economic refugees, feeling like they are for whatever reason entitled to the same wealth we as a Western society have built over many, many years of not being total incompetent idiots. And they simpy want to get to the UK because it has better welfare for immigrants.
I suspect a very, very large number of people living there should, by even lefty standards and a sense of law, should be deported back to where they came from because they simply have no chance of ever staying in the EU legally.
All I see in even the most left winged media are 95% young adult males throwing rocks at trucks, being economic refugees, feeling like they are for whatever reason entitled to the same wealth we as a Western society have built over many, many years of not being total incompetent idiots. And they simpy want to get to the UK because it has better welfare for immigrants.
I suspect a very, very large number of people living there should, by even lefty standards and a sense of law, should be deported back to where they came from because they simply have no chance of ever staying in the EU legally.
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