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The Jungle in Calais, by Coach on Sept 7, 2016 21:46:58 GMT 1, That's just not true. Compare how many migrants have settled in Germany to how many live here. If we had a land boarder with Europe I think we would easily now have more settled in the UK than any other country in Europe. They just see Germany as the next best option.
Just not true.
They see Germany as a welcoming country.
That's just not true. Compare how many migrants have settled in Germany to how many live here. If we had a land boarder with Europe I think we would easily now have more settled in the UK than any other country in Europe. They just see Germany as the next best option. Just not true. They see Germany as a welcoming country. |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Coach on Sept 7, 2016 21:48:24 GMT 1, I dispair at the views being expressed on this thread.
I dispair at the views being expressed on this thread.
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The Jungle in Calais, by Daniel Silk on Sept 7, 2016 21:49:10 GMT 1, If we had a land boarder with Europe I think we would easily now have more settled in the UK than any other country in Europe. They just see Germany as the next best option. Just not true. They see Germany as a welcoming country. 
If we had a land boarder with Europe I think we would easily now have more settled in the UK than any other country in Europe. They just see Germany as the next best option. Just not true. They see Germany as a welcoming country. Let's wait and see how that pans out in Germany over the next few years |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 21:49:11 GMT 1, I dispair at the views being expressed on this thread. 
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The Jungle in Calais, by Daniel Silk on Sept 7, 2016 21:52:23 GMT 1, The ultimate aim should always be for the families to get their homes back, their country back, and things organised there so in the future they can all live in peace.
The ultimate aim should always be for the families to get their homes back, their country back, and things organised there so in the future they can all live in peace.
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The Jungle in Calais, by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 22:04:08 GMT 1, The ultimate aim should always be for the families to get their homes back, their country back, and things organised there so in the future they can all live in peace.
Let me stress that for the real war-refugees there should be a solution (preferably close to their country of origin) but we, as a society simply can't take in all of the people just wanting a 'better life' while importing a culture that is so different from ours that it will inevitably lead to big social issues.
And I truly don't get all the left wing idealist that just want to open up our borders to everyone that wants to live here. Don't you people see that that's simply impossible? Both economically and socially?
The ultimate aim should always be for the families to get their homes back, their country back, and things organised there so in the future they can all live in peace. Yep, but with everyone having a smartphone nowadays a lottt more people can see that there are places in the world where things are actually organized, economically pretty stable and where we even hand out money to the 'poor'. Their own government and/or culture has proven for decades they are incapable of organizing a society like that, so they flock to the places in the world where we have ours**t down. Let me stress that for the real war-refugees there should be a solution (preferably close to their country of origin) but we, as a society simply can't take in all of the people just wanting a 'better life' while importing a culture that is so different from ours that it will inevitably lead to big social issues. And I truly don't get all the left wing idealist that just want to open up our borders to everyone that wants to live here. Don't you people see that that's simply impossible? Both economically and socially? |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 22:09:51 GMT 1, All I see in even the most left winged media are 95% young adult males throwing rocks at trucks, being economic refugees, feeling like they are for whatever reason entitled to the same wealth we as a Western society have built over many, many years of not being total incompetent idiots. And they simpy want to get to the UK because it has better welfare for immigrants. I suspect a very, very large number of people living there should, by even lefty standards and a sense of law, should be deported back to where they came from because they simply have no chance of ever staying in the EU legally.
*Shame on us!*
All I see in even the most left winged media are 95% young adult males throwing rocks at trucks, being economic refugees, feeling like they are for whatever reason entitled to the same wealth we as a Western society have built over many, many years of not being total incompetent idiots. And they simpy want to get to the UK because it has better welfare for immigrants. I suspect a very, very large number of people living there should, by even lefty standards and a sense of law, should be deported back to where they came from because they simply have no chance of ever staying in the EU legally. Your opinion perfectly fits the refugee policy of the Netherlands which is one of the toughest in Europe. *Shame on us!* |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Coach on Sept 7, 2016 22:12:28 GMT 1, Just not true. They see Germany as a welcoming country. Let's wait and see how that pans out in Germany over the next few years
Winky face appropriate? We are talking about the lives of desperate people fleeing war. Try listening to what the surgeon David Nott says about his work in Syria.
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p043m74d
Just not true. They see Germany as a welcoming country. Let's wait and see how that pans out in Germany over the next few years Winky face appropriate? We are talking about the lives of desperate people fleeing war. Try listening to what the surgeon David Nott says about his work in Syria. www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p043m74d |
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The Jungle in Calais, by monkey on Sept 7, 2016 22:12:30 GMT 1, All I see in even the most left winged media are 95% young adult males throwing rocks at trucks, being economic refugees, feeling like they are for whatever reason entitled to the same wealth we as a Western society have built over many, many years of not being total incompetent idiots. And they simpy want to get to the UK because it has better welfare for immigrants. I suspect a very, very large number of people living there should, by even lefty standards and a sense of law, should be deported back to where they came from because they simply have no chance of ever staying in the EU legally. Your opinion perfectly fits the refugee policy of the Netherlands which is one of the toughest in Europe.ย *Shame on us!*
All I see in even the most left winged media are 95% young adult males throwing rocks at trucks, being economic refugees, feeling like they are for whatever reason entitled to the same wealth we as a Western society have built over many, many years of not being total incompetent idiots. And they simpy want to get to the UK because it has better welfare for immigrants. I suspect a very, very large number of people living there should, by even lefty standards and a sense of law, should be deported back to where they came from because they simply have no chance of ever staying in the EU legally. Your opinion perfectly fits the refugee policy of the Netherlands which is one of the toughest in Europe.ย *Shame on us!* |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 22:17:30 GMT 1, Let's wait and see how that pans out in Germany over the next few years Winky face appropriate? We are talking about the lives of desperate people fleeing war. Try listening to what the surgeon David Nott says about his work in Syria. www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p043m74d
Let's wait and see how that pans out in Germany over the next few years Winky face appropriate? We are talking about the lives of desperate people fleeing war. Try listening to what the surgeon David Nott says about his work in Syria. www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p043m74dAs far as I know there's no war in Turkey, why don't they stay there? Why take a journey through 10+ countries to get to the UK (or the Netherlands, Germany or any of the 'richer' countries) if they just want to be safe? Oh wait, because they want welfare? |
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The Jungle in Calais, by monkey on Sept 7, 2016 22:19:16 GMT 1, I'm never heard anything more discusting on a urban art forum! Deranged is only interested in money and the owner is soo right wing! These are people like you and me just there government is fucked! If you where in there position what' would you do? I educate you too for starters ...fucking imbeciles
I'm never heard anything more discusting on a urban art forum! Deranged is only interested in money and the owner is soo right wing! These are people like you and me just there government is fucked! If you where in there position what' would you do? I educate you too for starters ...fucking imbeciles
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The Jungle in Calais, by Daniel Silk on Sept 7, 2016 22:22:03 GMT 1, Let's wait and see how that pans out in Germany over the next few years Winky face appropriate? We are talking about the lives of desperate people fleeing war. Try listening to what the surgeon David Nott says about his work in Syria. www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p043m74d
Germany are taking more than the country and easily house and intergrate into society. They are already having problems and with possible political change there and in France also, I think it might not end up as Welcoming as you would like us to believe.
Let's wait and see how that pans out in Germany over the next few years Winky face appropriate? We are talking about the lives of desperate people fleeing war. Try listening to what the surgeon David Nott says about his work in Syria. www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p043m74dGermany are taking more than the country and easily house and intergrate into society. They are already having problems and with possible political change there and in France also, I think it might not end up as Welcoming as you would like us to believe. |
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The Jungle in Calais, by monkey on Sept 7, 2016 22:23:24 GMT 1, Winky face appropriate? We are talking about the lives of desperate people fleeing war. Try listening to what the surgeon David Nott says about his work in Syria. www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p043m74dAs far as I know there's no war in Turkey, why don't they stay there? Why take a journey through 10+ countries to get to the UK (or the Netherlands, Germany or any of the 'richer' countries) if they just want to be safe? Oh wait, because they want welfare?
Why do you think? Because they are fleeing a war torn country ... What you fuck would you do??? t**t!!!
Winky face appropriate? We are talking about the lives of desperate people fleeing war. Try listening to what the surgeon David Nott says about his work in Syria. www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p043m74dAs far as I know there's no war in Turkey, why don't they stay there? Why take a journey through 10+ countries to get to the UK (or the Netherlands, Germany or any of the 'richer' countries) if they just want to be safe? Oh wait, because they want welfare? Why do you think? Because they are fleeing a war torn country ... What you fuck would you do??? t**t!!! |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 22:24:06 GMT 1, I will back out of this thread now as it is turning into something sickening....
One more thing ; I would like to apologise for this embarrassing discussion. I only ment to show some awareness on the issue in Calais as displayed on the Dismaland website.
I did not know it was about to turn out in a discussion with outrages comments and posts.
I will leave with this:
People are in need of help; let's all get our act together and get them the help they need please.
I will back out of this thread now as it is turning into something sickening....
One more thing ; I would like to apologise for this embarrassing discussion. I only ment to show some awareness on the issue in Calais as displayed on the Dismaland website.
I did not know it was about to turn out in a discussion with outrages comments and posts.
I will leave with this:
People are in need of help; let's all get our act together and get them the help they need please.
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The Jungle in Calais, by Fะฏ on Sept 7, 2016 22:26:45 GMT 1, I'm never heard anything more discusting on a urban art forum! Deranged is only interested in money and the owner is soo right wing! These are people like you and me just there government is fucked! If you where in there position what' would you do? I educate you too for starters ...f**kingimbeciles
Discusting?
No education from you thanks if that is how you spell.
I'm never heard anything more discusting on a urban art forum! Deranged is only interested in money and the owner is soo right wing! These are people like you and me just there government is fucked! If you where in there position what' would you do? I educate you too for starters ...f**kingimbeciles Discusting? No education from you thanks if that is how you spell. |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 22:27:27 GMT 1, As far as I know there's no war in Turkey, why don't they stay there? Why take a journey through 10+ countries to get to the UK (or the Netherlands, Germany or any of the 'richer' countries) if they just want to be safe? Oh wait, because they want welfare? Why do you think? Because they are fleeing a war torn country ... What you f**kwould you do??? t**t!!!
As far as I know there's no war in Turkey, why don't they stay there? Why take a journey through 10+ countries to get to the UK (or the Netherlands, Germany or any of the 'richer' countries) if they just want to be safe? Oh wait, because they want welfare? Why do you think? Because they are fleeing a war torn country ... What you f**kwould you do??? t**t!!! Still. Turkey is not a war torn country. Why would they travel any further while they are safe there? |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Coach on Sept 7, 2016 22:29:16 GMT 1, I will back out of this thread now as it is turning into something sickening.... One more thing ; I would like to apologise for this embarrassing discussion. I only ment to show some awareness on the issue in Calais as displayed on the Dismaland website. I did not know it was about to turn out in a discussion with outrages comments and posts. I will leave with this: People are in need of help; let's all get our act together and get them the help they need please.
You just beat me to it.
The comments made by a few on this thread I find appalling.
It is clear that I won't change their minds.
I'm amazed that art lovers, and urban art lovers at that, which has its history in dessent and activism, would hold views like these.
I'm sure they feel the same about my views.
I've made my views clear.
I don't want to get myself banned by losing my temper.
I'm out of this discussion too.
I will back out of this thread now as it is turning into something sickening.... One more thing ; I would like to apologise for this embarrassing discussion. I only ment to show some awareness on the issue in Calais as displayed on the Dismaland website. I did not know it was about to turn out in a discussion with outrages comments and posts. I will leave with this: People are in need of help; let's all get our act together and get them the help they need please.You just beat me to it. The comments made by a few on this thread I find appalling. It is clear that I won't change their minds. I'm amazed that art lovers, and urban art lovers at that, which has its history in dessent and activism, would hold views like these. I'm sure they feel the same about my views. I've made my views clear. I don't want to get myself banned by losing my temper. I'm out of this discussion too. |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 22:29:16 GMT 1, I will back out of this thread now as it is turning into something sickening.... One more thing ; I would like to apologise for this embarrassing discussion. I only ment to show some awareness on the issue in Calais as displayed on the Dismaland website. I did not know it was about to turn out in a discussion with outrages comments and posts. I will leave with this: People are in need of help; let's all get our act together and get them the help they need please.
I will back out of this thread now as it is turning into something sickening.... One more thing ; I would like to apologise for this embarrassing discussion. I only ment to show some awareness on the issue in Calais as displayed on the Dismaland website. I did not know it was about to turn out in a discussion with outrages comments and posts. I will leave with this: People are in need of help; let's all get our act together and get them the help they need please.The real shame is that that's what leftists always do. When presented compelling arguments against their views, they just back out. It's a bit like religious people. You can't argue with people that don't want to listen to reason. |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Fะฏ on Sept 7, 2016 22:30:18 GMT 1, I will back out of this thread now as it is turning into something sickening.... One more thing ; I would like to apologise for this embarrassing discussion. I only ment to show some awareness on the issue in Calais as displayed on the Dismaland website. I did not know it was about to turn out in a discussion with outrages comments and posts. I will leave with this: People are in need of help; let's all get our act together and get them the help they need please.
Nice that it was put up on a site where the company earned a few ยฃmil from dismaland and then donated some wood to the camps to raise awareness.
I will back out of this thread now as it is turning into something sickening.... One more thing ; I would like to apologise for this embarrassing discussion. I only ment to show some awareness on the issue in Calais as displayed on the Dismaland website. I did not know it was about to turn out in a discussion with outrages comments and posts. I will leave with this: People are in need of help; let's all get our act together and get them the help they need please.Nice that it was put up on a site where the company earned a few ยฃmil from dismaland and then donated some wood to the camps to raise awareness. |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Fะฏ on Sept 7, 2016 22:32:07 GMT 1, As far as I know there's no war in Turkey, why don't they stay there? Why take a journey through 10+ countries to get to the UK (or the Netherlands, Germany or any of the 'richer' countries) if they just want to be safe? Oh wait, because they want welfare? Why do you think? Because they are fleeing a war torn country ... What you f**kwould you do??? t**t!!!
Be glad when i set foot in a country that was safe.
not go... Right, now im going on a 1,000 mile walk. Ill call you from calais on me mobile.
As far as I know there's no war in Turkey, why don't they stay there? Why take a journey through 10+ countries to get to the UK (or the Netherlands, Germany or any of the 'richer' countries) if they just want to be safe? Oh wait, because they want welfare? Why do you think? Because they are fleeing a war torn country ... What you f**kwould you do??? t**t!!! Be glad when i set foot in a country that was safe. not go... Right, now im going on a 1,000 mile walk. Ill call you from calais on me mobile. |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Daniel Silk on Sept 7, 2016 22:43:32 GMT 1, With housing shortages in the UK, I think maybe a website should be created so families can come forward to take in and share their homes with those stranded in Calais and the war torn countries.
Things really need to be done fast to give these people roofs over their heads and food on the table, so it should be less talk and more hands on action.
So many people live in houses much too big for themselves or their own family, so if they have strong feelings about helping the refugees then I think the UK government could do more to organise things and put people together.
With housing shortages in the UK, I think maybe a website should be created so families can come forward to take in and share their homes with those stranded in Calais and the war torn countries.
Things really need to be done fast to give these people roofs over their heads and food on the table, so it should be less talk and more hands on action.
So many people live in houses much too big for themselves or their own family, so if they have strong feelings about helping the refugees then I think the UK government could do more to organise things and put people together.
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The Jungle in Calais, by monkey on Sept 7, 2016 22:51:33 GMT 1, [b
What housing shortage? There are thousands At home here in the east! Which we welcome migrants ... Would you pick all day? I know your disabled so what do you bring? Harsh I know but kettle black'! You doing ok whilst doing fuckall must be nice to judge?
[b What housing shortage? There are thousands At home here in the east! Which we welcome migrants ... Would you pick all day? I know your disabled so what do you bring? Harsh I know but kettle black'! You doing ok whilst doing fuckall must be nice to judge? |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Fะฏ on Sept 7, 2016 23:02:14 GMT 1, [b What housing shortage? There are thousands At home here in the east! Which we welcome migrants ... Would you pick all day? I know your disabled so what do you bring? Harsh I know but kettle black'! You doing ok whilst doing fuckall must be nice to judge?
will you take some migrants into your house?
[b What housing shortage? There are thousands At home here in the east! Which we welcome migrants ... Would you pick all day? I know your disabled so what do you bring? Harsh I know but kettle black'! You doing ok whilst doing fuckall must be nice to judge? will you take some migrants into your house? |
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The Jungle in Calais, by monkey on Sept 7, 2016 23:08:56 GMT 1, [b What housing shortage? There are thousands At home here in the east! Which we welcome migrants ... Would you pick all day? I know your disabled so what do you bring? Harsh I know but kettle black'! You doing ok whilst doing fuckall must be nice to judge? will you take some migrants into your house?
Off course I've got 5 beds vacant! Have done before .... How's the flipping going? Mugging off people 
[b What housing shortage? There are thousands At home here in the east! Which we welcome migrants ... Would you pick all day? I know your disabled so what do you bring? Harsh I know but kettle black'! You doing ok whilst doing fuckall must be nice to judge? will you take some migrants into your house? Off course I've got 5 beds vacant! Have done before .... How's the flipping going? Mugging off people |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 23:09:23 GMT 1, Given the way he writes I'm sure there is at least one migrant living in his house.
Given the way he writes I'm sure there is at least one migrant living in his house.
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The Jungle in Calais, by Fะฏ on Sept 7, 2016 23:10:58 GMT 1, will you take some migrants into your house? Off course I've got 5 beds vacant! Have done before .... How's the flipping going? Mugging off people
Was a serious question. No need for throwing poo.
only basic monkeys do that.
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The Jungle in Calais, by Daniel Silk on Sept 7, 2016 23:13:45 GMT 1, will you take some migrants into your house? Off course I've got 5 beds vacant! Have done before .... How's the flipping going? Mugging off people
Yeah, see that's one way it could be done to help these people. Even just as temporary accommodation for a year or two until things back in their own countries can be stabilised. Surely when we see large natural disasters in the world, similar schemes are organised with people finding space in their own homes to give them a bed and food to eat.
will you take some migrants into your house? Off course I've got 5 beds vacant! Have done before .... How's the flipping going? Mugging off people Yeah, see that's one way it could be done to help these people. Even just as temporary accommodation for a year or two until things back in their own countries can be stabilised. Surely when we see large natural disasters in the world, similar schemes are organised with people finding space in their own homes to give them a bed and food to eat. |
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The Jungle in Calais, by monkey on Sept 7, 2016 23:17:17 GMT 1, Given the way he writes I'm sure there is at least one migrant living in his house.
Lmao! I brought urban art before you new what it was!! I used to meet banks you at pow before it was there
Given the way he writes I'm sure there is at least one migrant living in his house. Lmao! I brought urban art before you new what it was!! I used to meet banks you at pow before it was there |
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The Jungle in Calais, by Fะฏ on Sept 7, 2016 23:19:00 GMT 1, Given the way he writes I'm sure there is at least one migrant living in his house. Lmao! I brought urban art before you new what it was!! I used to meet banks you at pow before it was there
Are you using google translate?
Given the way he writes I'm sure there is at least one migrant living in his house. Lmao! I brought urban art before you new what it was!! I used to meet banks you at pow before it was there Are you using google translate? |
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The Jungle in Calais, by monkey on Sept 7, 2016 23:24:42 GMT 1, Off course I've got 5 beds vacant! Have done before .... How's the flipping going? Mugging off people Yeah, see that's one way it could be done to help these people. Even just as temporary accommodation for a year or two until things back in their own countries can be stabilised. Surely when we see large natural disasters in the world, similar schemes are organised with people finding space in their own homes to give them a bed and food to eat.
Seriously! How's your art going? I guess alls d
Been honest too the vat I know your mate isn't ... Oops
Off course I've got 5 beds vacant! Have done before .... How's the flipping going? Mugging off people Yeah, see that's one way it could be done to help these people. Even just as temporary accommodation for a year or two until things back in their own countries can be stabilised. Surely when we see large natural disasters in the world, similar schemes are organised with people finding space in their own homes to give them a bed and food to eat. Seriously! How's your art going? I guess alls d Been honest too the vat I know your mate isn't ... Oops |
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